Reasoning 17% Claims 61% Positioning 15% Thanks 3% The ask 5% Aside 0%
Structure · 24 steps
Claims · 16
This view breaks the statement into its steps and names what each one does.
Mr. Speaker, Reasoning · 31 words the bill that the Liberal member has brought to us is an interesting one, because in many respects it feels like an admission of failure on the part of the government. Claims · 11 words The Liberals have been in power for more than 10 years.1 Positioning · 23 words They have repeatedly ignored the needs of trades workers and treated trades workers, as well as the work they do, with utter disdain, Positioning Claims · 33 words and now a member of the Liberal government is saying that maybe it should have a framework to try to fix some of the problems confronting trades workers, including problems around labour mobility. Off point Thanks · 35 words I will give the member credit insofar as his speech identified very real problems that are making things more difficult for trades workers trying to get certification, trying to move, trying to find jobs, etc. Thanks Reasoning · 164 words However, I think it is important to observe that the government did not need a private member’s bill compelling it to introduce a framework in order to solve these problems. The government could simply have acted to solve these problems that are, in many respects, of their own making. Off point The government also could have proposed the framework without having one of its members propose a bill to require it to present a framework. Fixing these problems is within the power of the government, and the problems are ones that have emerged from the actions and failures of a Liberal government that has been in many respects negative and disdainful about the people who build this country. Off point Instead of fixing the problems, the government got one of its members to propose a bill that calls for the development of a framework that is kind of directed toward pushing the government to solve problems that, at the end of the day, the government should solve itself. Thanks · 8 words I appreciate the identification of the problems, finally, Thanks The ask · 28 words but what we would really like is for the government to change policies in order to reverse bad decisions it has made that are bad for trades workers. Claims · 342 words If we look at the history of the government, we see that there are repeated instances of criticism and disdain for our hard-working trades workers. Most notable was when the former prime minister said that major projects in this country require a gender analysis because male construction workers’ coming to towns to build things might have gendered impacts.2 The former prime minister never spoke about the gendered impacts of people in suits’ showing up. Instead he was purveying negative stereotypes about hard-working men and women who travel from home to build the projects this country needs. He talked about how we should not be known for our resources but should instead be known for our resourcefulness.3 This was constant negative discourse from the former prime minister about hard-working trades workers. Maybe we could have hoped that the negative discourse would change with the new Prime Minister, but things have gotten even worse under him. In particular, in the last budget, a policy was announced that effectively singles out people in certain vocations, including trades workers, to no longer be able to access student grants. Page 217 of the last federal budget explains the dynamic.4 It says that students at private for-profit institutions, which includes vocational schools where many trades workers learn their trade, would no longer be eligible for grants under the federal student loan program.5 This means that if someone studies any program at a university, no matter how labour-market relevant it is or is not, they can get those grants. However, if they study at a vocational institution to learn a trade, regardless of how urgently our economy needs those workers, they cannot get those grants. University students get the grants. If students are studying in the trades or for other critical skills at vocational institutions, they do not get the grants. This was the policy of the Prime Minister in the last federal budget, effectively singling out these occupations, including trades workers, to be denied student grants. This policy is going to exacerbate existing shortages in these critical areas, Reasoning · 52 words because it sends a message to young people that the government is going to support them more if they go through the one door than if they go through the other door. In fact what we should be doing is trying to magnify the signals of the labour market to young people. Claims · 68 words We should be offering, as Conservatives proposed, more generous student grants to students who are pursuing studies in in-demand fields. Instead, the Liberals are discriminating based on the institutions that students apply for. Just today, the government announced some further details of this planned policy.6 It announced some exceptions for certain kinds of vocations that people might study for at private institutions. The exemptions are better than nothing. Positioning · 21 words We have done a lot of advocacy around this work and it feels like we are pushing the needle a bit. Positioning Claims · 12 words The exemptions were for nursing, dental hygiene, early childhood education and paramedics.7 The ask · 22 words It should not be a policy of exemptions. We should just eliminate in general this discriminatory policy that the government has proposed. Claims · 49 words What I notice about these exceptions is that none of them apply to trades workers.8 Therefore, the government’s policy continues to be that if someone is studying to become a tradesperson, and in many cases that training is offered at private institutions, then they cannot get a student grant. Positioning · 75 words It is mind-boggling to me, in this time when finally even the Liberals are paying lip service to the fact that we need more trades workers, that they are still pursuing a policy that attacks trades workers by denying grants specifically to those who are pursuing careers in the trades. The Conservatives have been doggedly pursuing this issue. We are defending trades workers, defending those who are trying to pursue critical skills at vocational institutions. Positioning Claims · 300 words In many cases, these are skills that are simply not offered at public or not-for-profit institutions. We have pushed this issue at the human resources committee and we were able to get the human resources committee to adopt a unanimous report encouraging the government to reconsider this policy.9 Even Liberals on the human resources committee at the time voted in favour of asking the government to reconsider this policy. Then, this week, we put the motion before the House of Commons on Tuesday, 10 and every single Liberal member voted against our motion to reconsider this policy.11 Every Liberal member present voted in favour of this Liberal policy to discriminate against trades workers and others pursuing vocational training at private institutions. The member who sponsored this bill and just spoke about the importance of trades workers voted in favour of the Liberal policy and against our motion to reconsider it.12 The Liberal member who put forward this bill earlier this week voted in favour of denying funding to students specifically and uniquely in the trades at private institutions. The member for Markham—Unionville, who previously as a Conservative worked with me on this issue, called out the Liberal policy change for being systemically discriminatory because of its attack on those studying traditional Chinese medicine.13 He called this Liberal policy discriminatory and then, after he crossed the floor, he voted in favour of the policy that he said systemically discriminates against his own community and others.14 It is pretty baffling, to say, “This is systematically discriminatory against the community that I represent, and now I am going to vote for it.” Every Liberal member of the human resources committee who initially voted in favour of this motion to reconsider the discriminatory Liberal policy reversed their position when the motion came to the House.15 Aside · 3 words It is unbelievable. Aside Positioning · 13 words We have this situation of “say one thing and do the exact opposite”. Positioning Claims · 84 words There are members in today’s debate, I am sure, eager to pay lip service to the value of trades while attacking trades workers by targeting them with the removal of funding through these student grants. They cannot deny it because every one of them voted for it. Not only did they vote for the budget, but we had a stand-alone vote on this discrimination against trades workers.16 Every Liberal who was present, including the sponsor of this bill, voted in favour of that discrimination. Positioning · 51 words They cannot get away with saying, “We are going to attack trades workers. We are going to insult them. We are going to deny funding that is available to every other stream, but then we are going to have a framework to study trying to fix these problems in the future.” Positioning The ask · 22 words It is time for the Liberals to put their money where their mouth is on this issue, to put actions behind words. Vague promise Positioning · 33 words The Conservatives will always stand with, Vague promise and stand up for, the hard-working trades workers who built this country. It is a pity that the Liberals are attacking them while hypocritically pretending to care. Positioning Off point
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Signal · 76
17 of 92 deductions are Signal
Signal checks whether every part makes a point, gives a reason, or asks for action. A low score means the speaker filled time with fluff, pleasantries, or attacks.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “They have repeatedly ignored the needs of trades workers and treated trades workers,” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “as well as the work they do, with utter disdain,” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Thanks Thanks and tributes. What the tags mean → “I will give the member credit insofar as his speech identified very real problems that are making things more difficult for trades workers trying to get certification, trying to move, trying to find jobs, etc.” Thanks: no claim, reason or ask.
Thanks Thanks and tributes. What the tags mean → “I appreciate the identification of the problems, finally,” Thanks: no claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “We have done a lot of advocacy around this work and it feels like we are pushing the needle a bit.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “It is mind-boggling to me, in this time when finally even the Liberals are paying lip service to the fact that we need more trades workers, that they are still pursuing a policy that attacks trades workers by denying grants specifically to those who are pursuing careers in the trades.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “The Conservatives have been doggedly pursuing this issue.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “We are defending trades workers, defending those who are trying to pursue critical skills at vocational institutions.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Aside A remark off to the side of the point. What the tags mean → “It is unbelievable.” An aside: no claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “We have this situation of “say one thing and do the exact opposite”.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “They cannot get away with saying, “We are going to attack trades workers.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “We are going to insult them.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “We are going to deny funding that is available to every other stream,” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “but then we are going to have a framework to study trying to fix these problems in the future.”” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “The Conservatives will always stand with,” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “and stand up for, the hard-working trades workers who built this country.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “It is a pity that the Liberals are attacking them while hypocritically pretending to care.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Relevance · 10
73 of 92 deductions are Relevance
Relevance checks whether the speaker stays on topic and answers the question asked. A low score means the speaker dodged the issue. Measured against the bill under debate.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “because in many respects it feels like an admission of failure on the part of the government.” A partisan framing of the bill as an admission of failure rather than engagement with its content.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The Liberals have been in power for more than 10 years.” Length of time in power is unrelated to the bill’s framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “They have repeatedly ignored the needs of trades workers and treated trades workers,” Accusation about ignoring trades workers is a political point, not about the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “as well as the work they do, with utter disdain,” Claim of disdain for trades workers does not address the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “and now a member of the Liberal government is saying that maybe it should have a framework to try to fix some of the problems confronting trades workers, including problems around labour mobility.” Frames the bill as a fix for problems of the government’s own making instead of discussing it.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The government could simply have acted to solve these problems that are, in many respects, of their own making.” Argument that government should have acted itself is a political point, not about the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Fixing these problems is within the power of the government,” Restates who has the power to fix problems rather than addressing the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “and the problems are ones that have emerged from the actions and failures of a Liberal government that has been in many respects negative and disdainful about the people who build this country.” Partisan attack on the government’s character unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “If we look at the history of the government, we see that there are repeated instances of criticism and disdain for our hard-working trades workers.” History of alleged disdain by the government is off the bill’s subject.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Most notable was when the former prime minister said that major projects in this country require a gender analysis because male construction workers’ coming to towns to build things might have gendered impacts.” Former prime minister’s gender-analysis remark is unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The former prime minister never spoke about the gendered impacts of people in suits’ showing up.” Comment on the former prime minister’s remarks does not address the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Instead he was purveying negative stereotypes about hard-working men and women who travel from home to build the projects this country needs.” Continues discussion of the former prime minister’s statements, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “He talked about how we should not be known for our resources but should instead be known for our resourcefulness.” Quote about resources versus resourcefulness is unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “This was constant negative discourse from the former prime minister about hard-working trades workers.” Generalized criticism of past discourse, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Maybe we could have hoped that the negative discourse would change with the new Prime Minister,” Speculation about the new Prime Minister’s tone is off topic.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “but things have gotten even worse under him.” Claim that things got worse under the new Prime Minister does not address the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “In particular, in the last budget, a policy was announced that effectively singles out people in certain vocations, including trades workers, to no longer be able to access student grants.” The budget’s student grant policy is a different subject from credential recognition and mobility.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Page 217 of the last federal budget explains the dynamic.” Citation of budget page on grants is off the bill’s subject.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “It says that students at private for-profit institutions,” Details of grant eligibility at private institutions do not address the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “which includes vocational schools where many trades workers learn their trade, would no longer be eligible for grants under the federal student loan program.” Grant eligibility of vocational schools is a separate policy from the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “This means that if someone studies any program at a university, no matter how labour-market relevant it is or is not, they can get those grants.” University grant eligibility is unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “However,” Continues the grants comparison, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “if they study at a vocational institution to learn a trade, regardless of how urgently our economy needs those workers, they cannot get those grants.” Vocational grant ineligibility is off the bill’s subject.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “University students get the grants.” Restates the grants point, unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “If students are studying in the trades or for other critical skills at vocational institutions, they do not get the grants.” Restates the grants comparison, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “This was the policy of the Prime Minister in the last federal budget, effectively singling out these occupations, including trades workers, to be denied student grants.” Attributes the grants policy to the Prime Minister, still off the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “This policy is going to exacerbate existing shortages in these critical areas,” Predicted effect of the grants policy is a separate subject from the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “because it sends a message to young people that the government is going to support them more if they go through the one door than if they go through the other door.” Signalling effect of the grants policy does not address the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “In fact what we should be doing is trying to magnify the signals of the labour market to young people.” Preferred approach to labour-market signals is unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We should be offering,” Continues the grants proposal, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “as Conservatives proposed, more generous student grants to students who are pursuing studies in in-demand fields.” Conservative grants proposal is a separate policy from the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Instead, the Liberals are discriminating based on the institutions that students apply for.” Accusation of discrimination over grants is off the bill’s subject.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Just today, the government announced some further details of this planned policy.” Same-day announcement about grants is unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “It announced some exceptions for certain kinds of vocations that people might study for at private institutions.” Details of grant exemptions do not address the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The exemptions are better than nothing.” Assessment of the exemptions is off the bill’s subject.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We have done a lot of advocacy around this work and it feels like we are pushing the needle a bit.” Advocacy on the grants issue is unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The exemptions were for nursing, dental hygiene, early childhood education and paramedics.” List of exempted vocations does not address the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “It should not be a policy of exemptions.” Argument against an exemptions-based grants policy is off the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We should just eliminate in general this discriminatory policy that the government has proposed.” Call to eliminate the grants policy is a separate subject from the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “What I notice about these exceptions is that none of them apply to trades workers.” Observation that exemptions exclude trades concerns grants, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Therefore, the government’s policy continues to be that if someone is studying to become a tradesperson,” Restates the grants ineligibility point, unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “and in many cases that training is offered at private institutions, then they cannot get a student grant.” Continues the grants argument, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “It is mind-boggling to me, in this time when finally even the Liberals are paying lip service to the fact that we need more trades workers, that they are still pursuing a policy that attacks trades workers by denying grants specifically to those who are pursuing careers in the trades.” Partisan attack over the grants policy in place of addressing the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The Conservatives have been doggedly pursuing this issue.” Conservative advocacy on grants is off the bill’s subject.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We are defending trades workers, defending those who are trying to pursue critical skills at vocational institutions.” Claim of defending trades workers on grants does not address the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “In many cases, these are skills that are simply not offered at public or not-for-profit institutions.” Availability of skills at institutions concerns grants, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We have pushed this issue at the human resources committee and we were able to get the human resources committee to adopt a unanimous report encouraging the government to reconsider this policy.” Committee report on the grants policy is unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Even Liberals on the human resources committee at the time voted in favour of asking the government to reconsider this policy.” Liberal committee votes on grants are off the bill’s subject.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Then, this week, we put the motion before the House of Commons on Tuesday,” House motion on the grants policy does not address the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “and every single Liberal member voted against our motion to reconsider this policy.” Liberal votes against the motion concern grants, not the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Every Liberal member present voted in favour of this Liberal policy to discriminate against trades workers and others pursuing vocational training at private institutions.” Accusation about votes on the grants policy is off the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The member who sponsored this bill and just spoke about the importance of trades workers voted in favour of the Liberal policy and against our motion to reconsider it.” Attack on the bill’s sponsor’s votes is unrelated to the bill’s content.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The Liberal member who put forward this bill earlier this week voted in favour of denying funding to students specifically and uniquely in the trades at private institutions.” Further attack on the sponsor’s vote concerns grants, not the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The member for Markham—Unionville, who previously as a Conservative worked with me on this issue, called out the Liberal policy change for being systemically discriminatory because of its attack on those studying traditional Chinese medicine.” Another member’s floor-crossing and grants comments are off the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “He called this Liberal policy discriminatory and then, after he crossed the floor, he voted in favour of the policy that he said systemically discriminates against his own community and others.” Continues the attack on that member’s vote, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “It is pretty baffling, to say, “This is systematically discriminatory against the community that I represent,” Mockery of the member’s position is unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “and now I am going to vote for it.”” Continues the same personal attack, off the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Every Liberal member of the human resources committee who initially voted in favour of this motion to reconsider the discriminatory Liberal policy reversed their position when the motion came to the House.” Committee members’ votes on grants are unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “It is unbelievable.” Exclamation about the votes does not address the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We have this situation of “say one thing and do the exact opposite”.” General charge of saying one thing and doing another is off the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “There are members in today’s debate, I am sure, eager to pay lip service to the value of trades while attacking trades workers by targeting them with the removal of funding through these student grants.” Accusation about other members’ hypocrisy on grants does not address the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “They cannot deny it because every one of them voted for it.” Claim about votes on the grants policy is off the bill’s subject.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Not only did they vote for the budget,” Budget votes are unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “but we had a stand-alone vote on this discrimination against trades workers.” Stand-alone vote on grants does not address the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Every Liberal who was present, including the sponsor of this bill, voted in favour of that discrimination.” Restates the accusation about votes on grants, not the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “They cannot get away with saying, “We are going to attack trades workers.” Mockery of Liberals on grants is off the bill’s subject.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We are going to insult them.” Accusation of insulting trades workers does not address the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We are going to deny funding that is available to every other stream,” Denial-of-funding accusation is unrelated to the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “but then we are going to have a framework to study trying to fix these problems in the future.”” Dismissal of the framework as future study remains inside the grants attack rather than addressing the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “It is time for the Liberals to put their money where their mouth is on this issue, to put actions behind words.” Call for Liberals to act on grants is a separate subject from the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The Conservatives will always stand with,” Party position statement does not address the framework.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “and stand up for, the hard-working trades workers who built this country.” Party slogan unrelated to the bill’s content.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “It is a pity that the Liberals are attacking them while hypocritically pretending to care.” Closing partisan attack does not address the bill.
Respect · no score
Not checked: graded before this measurement existed. Excluded from the average.
Respect checks whether the speaker argued with people’s positions and records rather than attacking the people: insults, mockery, or bad motives assigned to them. Criticism of what someone did, however strong, is not marked.
Clarity · 97
2 of 92 deductions are Clarity
Clarity checks for plain speaking, clear ownership of actions, and honest limits on certainty. A low score means vague promises or evasive language.
Vague promise A promise with no date, no measure and no one responsible. What the tags mean → “put their money where their mouth is on this issue, to put actions behind words” The demand names no specific action, date or measure against which the government could be held to account.
Vague promise A promise with no date, no measure and no one responsible. What the tags mean → “will always stand with” The commitment has no date, condition or measure, only an open-ended pledge of support.
Claims · 16
This list shows the factual statements you can check for yourself: the words as said, and the claim restated to stand on its own.
1 “The Liberals have been in power for more than 10 years” The Liberal Party has held federal power in Canada for more than 10 years as of April 2026. search
2 “the former prime minister said that major projects in this country require a gender analysis” The former prime minister said that major projects in Canada require a gender analysis. search
3 “He talked about how we should not be known for our resources but should instead be known for our resourcefulness.” The former prime minister said Canada should not be known for its resources but for its resourcefulness. search
4 “Page 217 of the last federal budget” Page 217 of the last federal budget contains the policy on student grants for private for-profit institutions. search
5 “which includes vocational schools where many trades workers learn their trade, would no longer be eligible for grants under the federal student loan program.” The most recent federal budget makes students at private for-profit institutions, including vocational schools, ineligible for grants under the federal student loan program. search
6 “Just today, the government announced some further details of this planned policy” On April 23, 2026, the government announced further details of the planned student grant policy, including exceptions. search
7 “The exemptions were for nursing, dental hygiene, early childhood education and paramedics” The announced exemptions to the student grant policy cover nursing, dental hygiene, early childhood education, and paramedics. search
8 “none of them apply to trades workers” The announced exemptions to the student grant policy do not include any trades. search
9 “we were able to get the human resources committee to adopt a unanimous report encouraging the government to reconsider this policy” The House of Commons human resources committee adopted a unanimous report encouraging the government to reconsider the student grant policy for private for-profit institutions. search
10 “we put the motion before the House of Commons on Tuesday” A Conservative motion to reconsider the student grant policy was voted on in the House of Commons on the Tuesday before April 23, 2026. search
11 “every single Liberal member voted against our motion to reconsider this policy” Every Liberal member voted against the Conservative motion to reconsider the student grant policy in the House of Commons. search
12 “The member who sponsored this bill and just spoke about the importance of trades workers voted in favour of the Liberal policy and against our motion to reconsider it” The Liberal sponsor of Bill C- (National Framework on Skilled Trades and Labour Mobility Act) voted against the Conservative motion to reconsider the student grant policy. search
13 “The member for Markham—Unionville, who previously as a Conservative worked with me on this issue” The member for Markham—Unionville was previously a Conservative and worked with the speaker on the student grant issue. search
14 “He called this Liberal policy discriminatory and then, after he crossed the floor, he voted in favour of the policy” The member for Markham—Unionville crossed the floor to the Liberals and then voted in favour of the student grant policy he had called discriminatory. search
15 “Every Liberal member of the human resources committee who initially voted in favour of this motion to reconsider the discriminatory Liberal policy reversed their position when the motion came to the House” Liberal members of the human resources committee who had supported the motion to reconsider the grant policy voted against it when it came to the House. search
16 “we had a stand-alone vote on this discrimination against trades workers” The House of Commons held a stand-alone vote related to the student grant policy affecting vocational students at private institutions. search