Procedure 14% Claims 61% Positioning 12% Reasoning 8% Anecdote 3% The question 1%
Structure · 30 steps
Claims · 8
This view breaks the statement into its steps and names what each one does.
Madam Speaker, Procedure · 21 words I too would like to start off, as the member opposite did, with regard to the 1919 general strike in Winnipeg.1 Procedure Claims · 222 words That general strike set history, not only for the union movement in the city of Winnipeg, but I would suggest for the world. In many ways, our union movement over the years is one of the reasons we have many of the social programs that we have today. The union movement overall has increased wages and benefits, and in many ways it has contributed to the lifestyle that we have here in Canada. Ultimately, I would argue, and I have said it many times in the past, that Canada is in fact the best place in the world to call home. I do not say that lightly, because I do believe that our union movement is one of the primary reasons for that. When I ask people what they love about Canada, I often find it is about policies that have ultimately made Canada that star in the world. That is why I have always been, since I was first elected, back in 1988, a strong union advocate.2 I see not only the true value and contributions that unions have made in the past and today, but also the potential that is there for the future, and I think the government does have an obligation to continue to work with the union movement, Vague promise as we have over the last number of years. Partly on point Positioning · 25 words I disagree with the painting that the member for Winnipeg Centre is trying to portray to Canadians as a whole and to the union movement. Positioning Reasoning · 12 words The best agreement is a negotiated agreement. Those are the best agreements. Claims · 14 words I believe 95%‑plus of agreements are achieved without any stoppage of work or lockouts.3 Anecdote · 27 words Over the years, I have had the opportunity to walk along with many on picket lines. I have had the opportunity here and at the Manitoba legislature. Anecdote Positioning · 31 words I do not think one has to be a New Democrat in order to be a supporter of the union movement, and that is something the NDP members do not realize. Positioning Partly on point Procedure · 5 words I will take the challenge. Procedure Claims · 108 words When the New Democrats ask about people going back to work, do they not realize that there have been NDP governments that have actually ordered unions to go back to work? They have brought in back-to-work legislation.4 When I was first elected, we had a compromise brought in by Howard Pawley during the eighties that was called final offer selection.5 That was a compromise, because the NDP premier at the time promised to bring in anti-scab legislation but decided not to when he was elected as the premier.6 Instead, he came up with the compromise of final offer selection. I am a big fan of final offer selection. Anecdote · 9 words Back then, we talked a great deal about it. Anecdote Claims · 80 words The NDP and the Liberals actually worked together on coming up with a compromise that would have ultimately ensured that Manitoba today would likely still have final offer selection. In fact, it was the member for Winnipeg South Centre’s father who negotiated with the NDP to come up with an agreement that would have seen its success. The union movement supported it in Manitoba in a very big way, but at the last minute, a bit of sabotage was done. Hidden agency Positioning · 16 words I will not tell members which political party caused it, but I can say one thing: Positioning Claims · 52 words I and many members of the caucus back then were very disappointed, because we saw the value of it, just as we, for the first time, have anti-scab legislation at the national level, brought in by a Liberal government.7 Partly on point Understanding the value of the worker has been amplified in the budget process. Off point Procedure · 6 words Look at the Red Seal program. Procedure Claims · 68 words We are talking about enhancing 80,000 to 100,000 highly skilled workers through the Red Seal program.8 That is a real commitment. We understand that when we talk about those major projects, the projects that we want to advance, union labour is not an option. It is essential that we get union labour involved. We will see that in many of the major projects that are on the horizon. Off point Procedure · 76 words I took a look at what is being suggested in Bill C-247 and I posed a question. I believe it was a legitimate question. As I say, different levels of government, and the national government on occasion, have recognized that there might be a situation where we need a tool to deal with a labour dispute. We have seen that. Different levels of government, different political parties, including New Democrats, have had to use those tools. Procedure Claims · 33 words Under this Prime Minister and this government, we have departments that are consulting. I believe the consultation has come to an end. Dozens of stakeholders came to the table to talk about labour. Positioning · 41 words There is a serious attempt by the government to look at how we can improve labour conditions here in Canada. That is why I say we take it very seriously. That is why we are doing consultation with the different stakeholders. Positioning Partly on point Procedure · 29 words That is why I posed the question. I did not mean it in a sarcastic fashion whatsoever. It was a very specific question to the member for Winnipeg Centre. Procedure The question · 14 words I even emphasized the federal New Democrats. Is it the federal New Democrats’ position? Claims · 76 words Even though she did not answer the question directly, I infer from the tail end of her answer that the answer is no, that they do not see any circumstance whatsoever where the national government should have any form of a tool if there is some form of a labour-business-management dispute that is causing issues. That is what I took from the comment from the member for Winnipeg Centre on behalf of the New Democratic Party. Reasoning · 31 words Consulting is critical on anything with respect to labour and labour relations. Working and recognizing the value is more than just talking about it. It is taking action where we can. Partly on point Vague promise Procedure · 29 words That is why I have highlighted a couple of things I have seen in the last couple of years that I think are very meaningful and that provide opportunities. Procedure Claims · 56 words One of those achievements that I am very proud of, as I said, is the anti-scab legislation that we introduced not that long ago and ultimately passed. Partly on point The other thing within this fiscal budget is that we have now proclaimed how important it is that we expand and promote programs such as the Red Seal program. Positioning · 14 words I see the value, and I believe that Canadians see the value of that. Positioning Off point Reasoning · 31 words Working with the different stakeholders, listening to what they would like to see, in a responsible fashion, with respect to our labour laws, I think is the responsible approach to take. Positioning · 15 words That is the approach that this Prime Minister and the government have put into action. Positioning Claims · 18 words I am not 100% sure, but I believe if it has not concluded, it will be concluding shortly. Partly on point Reasoning · 25 words The best way to change labour laws is to work, through consultations, with different stakeholders in order to come up with good, solid labour laws.
At a glance
Lost points for Partly on point ×35 Procedure ×14 Positioning ×11 Off point ×9 Anecdote ×3 Vague promise ×2 Hidden agency
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What the tags mean →
Signal · 65
28 of 75 deductions are Signal
Signal checks whether every part makes a point, gives a reason, or asks for action. A low score means the speaker filled time with fluff, pleasantries, or attacks.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “I too would like to start off,” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “as the member opposite did, with regard to the 1919 general strike in Winnipeg.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “I disagree with the painting that the member for Winnipeg Centre is trying to portray to Canadians as a whole and to the union movement.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Anecdote A story that illustrates instead of making a point. What the tags mean → “Over the years, I have had the opportunity to walk along with many on picket lines.” An anecdote: it illustrates, it does not claim, reason or ask.
Anecdote A story that illustrates instead of making a point. What the tags mean → “I have had the opportunity here and at the Manitoba legislature.” An anecdote: it illustrates, it does not claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “I do not think one has to be a New Democrat in order to be a supporter of the union movement,” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “and that is something the NDP members do not realize.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “I will take the challenge.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Anecdote A story that illustrates instead of making a point. What the tags mean → “Back then, we talked a great deal about it.” An anecdote: it illustrates, it does not claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “I will not tell members which political party caused it,” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “but I can say one thing:” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “Look at the Red Seal program.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “I took a look at what is being suggested in Bill C-247 and I posed a question.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “I believe it was a legitimate question.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “As I say, different levels of government,” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “and the national government on occasion, have recognized that there might be a situation where we need a tool to deal with a labour dispute.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “We have seen that.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “Different levels of government, different political parties, including New Democrats, have had to use those tools.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “There is a serious attempt by the government to look at how we can improve labour conditions here in Canada.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “That is why I say we take it very seriously.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “That is why we are doing consultation with the different stakeholders.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “That is why I posed the question.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “I did not mean it in a sarcastic fashion whatsoever.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “It was a very specific question to the member for Winnipeg Centre.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Procedure Throat-clearing: announcing what you are about to say, or the House’s routine business. What the tags mean → “That is why I have highlighted a couple of things I have seen in the last couple of years that I think are very meaningful and that provide opportunities.” Procedure or throat-clearing: no claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “I see the value,” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “and I believe that Canadians see the value of that.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Positioning Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it. What the tags mean → “That is the approach that this Prime Minister and the government have put into action.” Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Relevance · 58
44 of 75 deductions are Relevance
Relevance checks whether the speaker stays on topic and answers the question asked. A low score means the speaker dodged the issue. Measured against the bill under debate.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “That general strike set history, not only for the union movement in the city of Winnipeg,” About the strike’s historical significance, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “but I would suggest for the world.” About the strike’s world significance, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “In many ways, our union movement over the years is one of the reasons we have many of the social programs that we have today.” About unions’ role in social programs generally, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “The union movement overall has increased wages and benefits,” About unions raising wages and benefits, not the bill’s repeal of ministerial powers.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “and in many ways it has contributed to the lifestyle that we have here in Canada.” About unions’ contribution to Canadian lifestyle, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “Ultimately, I would argue,” Praise of Canada, touching the labour debate only in passing.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “and I have said it many times in the past, that Canada is in fact the best place in the world to call home.” About Canada being the best place to live, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “I do not say that lightly,” About how strongly he says it, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “because I do believe that our union movement is one of the primary reasons for that.” About unions’ role in Canada’s quality of life, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “When I ask people what they love about Canada, I often find it is about policies that have ultimately made Canada that star in the world.” About what people love about Canada, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “That is why I have always been, since I was first elected, back in 1988, a strong union advocate.” About the member’s own history as a union advocate, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “I see not only the true value and contributions that unions have made in the past and today,” About the value of unions generally, not the bill’s repeal of ministerial powers.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “but also the potential that is there for the future,” About unions’ future potential, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “and I think the government does have an obligation to continue to work with the union movement,” About government obligations to unions generally, not the bill’s specific provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “as we have over the last number of years.” About past co-operation with unions, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “Over the years, I have had the opportunity to walk along with many on picket lines.” About the member’s personal picket-line experiences, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “I have had the opportunity here and at the Manitoba legislature.” About where he has walked picket lines, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “I do not think one has to be a New Democrat in order to be a supporter of the union movement,” About which party supports unions, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “and that is something the NDP members do not realize.” About the NDP’s view of union supporters, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “because we saw the value of it, just as we, for the first time, have anti-scab legislation at the national level, brought in by a Liberal government.” About the government’s anti-scab legislation, a different labour measure than the bill’s repeal of ministerial dispute powers.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “Understanding the value of the worker has been amplified in the budget process.” About the budget process, not the bill’s provisions.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We are talking about enhancing 80,000 to 100,000 highly skilled workers through the Red Seal program.” About Red Seal training numbers, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “That is a real commitment.” About the Red Seal program commitment, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We understand that when we talk about those major projects, the projects that we want to advance, union labour is not an option.” About major projects and union labour, a subject the bill does not address.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “It is essential that we get union labour involved.” About union labour on major projects, not the bill’s provisions.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “We will see that in many of the major projects that are on the horizon.” About upcoming major projects, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “Under this Prime Minister and this government, we have departments that are consulting.” About departments consulting on labour generally, not the bill’s specific repeal.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “I believe the consultation has come to an end.” About the state of a consultation process, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “Dozens of stakeholders came to the table to talk about labour.” About stakeholders in a consultation, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “There is a serious attempt by the government to look at how we can improve labour conditions here in Canada.” About government efforts on labour conditions generally, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “That is why I say we take it very seriously.” About taking labour seriously generally, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “That is why we are doing consultation with the different stakeholders.” About stakeholder consultation, not the bill’s specific repeal.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “Consulting is critical on anything with respect to labour and labour relations.” About the value of consultation on labour generally, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “Working and recognizing the value is more than just talking about it.” About recognizing labour’s value and taking action generally, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “It is taking action where we can.” About taking action on labour generally, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “One of those achievements that I am very proud of,” About the government’s anti-scab legislation, a measure other than the bill’s repeal.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “as I said, is the anti-scab legislation that we introduced not that long ago and ultimately passed.” About the anti-scab legislation the government passed, not the bill’s provisions.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “The other thing within this fiscal budget is that we have now proclaimed how important it is that we expand and promote programs such as the Red Seal program.” About the Red Seal program in the budget, which the bill does not touch.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “I see the value,” About the value of the Red Seal program, not the bill.
Off point Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate. What the tags mean → “and I believe that Canadians see the value of that.” About Canadians seeing the value of the Red Seal program, not the bill.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “Working with the different stakeholders, listening to what they would like to see, in a responsible fashion, with respect to our labour laws, I think is the responsible approach to take.” About consultation as the approach to labour law changes, not the bill’s specific provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “That is the approach that this Prime Minister and the government have put into action.” About the government’s consultation approach generally, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “I am not 100% sure,” About the timing of a consultation, not the bill’s provisions.
Partly on point Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about. What the tags mean → “but I believe if it has not concluded, it will be concluding shortly.” About when a consultation concludes, not the bill’s provisions.
Respect · 100
0 of 75 deductions are Respect
Respect checks whether the speaker argued with people’s positions and records rather than attacking the people: insults, mockery, or bad motives assigned to them. Criticism of what someone did, however strong, is not marked.
Nothing lost points.
Clarity · 95
3 of 75 deductions are Clarity
Clarity checks for plain speaking, clear ownership of actions, and honest limits on certainty. A low score means vague promises or evasive language.
Vague promise A promise with no date, no measure and no one responsible. What the tags mean → “obligation to continue to work with the union movement” A commitment for the government’s side with no measure, date, or success condition named.
Hidden agency Wording that hides who did something, or who will. What the tags mean → “a bit of sabotage was done” A passive that names no actor, and the speaker explicitly declines to say who did it.
Vague promise A promise with no date, no measure and no one responsible. What the tags mean → “taking action where we can” Commits to action with no actor-specific measure, date, or condition defining what will be done.
Claims · 8
This list shows the factual statements you can check for yourself: the words as said, and the claim restated to stand on its own.
1 “the 1919 general strike in Winnipeg” There was a general strike in Winnipeg in 1919. search
2 “first elected, back in 1988” Kevin Lamoureux was first elected in 1988. search
3 “95%‑plus of agreements are achieved without any stoppage of work or lockouts” More than 95% of collective agreements are achieved without a stoppage of work or lockouts. search
4 “They have brought in back-to-work legislation” NDP governments have brought in back-to-work legislation ordering unions back to work. search
5 “a compromise brought in by Howard Pawley during the eighties that was called final offer selection” Howard Pawley’s Manitoba government introduced final offer selection in the 1980s. search
6 “the NDP premier at the time promised to bring in anti-scab legislation but decided not to when he was elected as the premier” The NDP premier of Manitoba elected in the 1980s promised anti-scab legislation but did not bring it in. search
7 “we, for the first time, have anti-scab legislation at the national level, brought in by a Liberal government” Canada’s first national anti-scab legislation was brought in by the Liberal government. search
8 “enhancing 80,000 to 100,000 highly skilled workers through the Red Seal program” The government aims to enhance 80,000 to 100,000 highly skilled workers through the Red Seal program. search