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Maggie Chi

Liberal on Adjournment Proceedings 2026-10-20

539 words · 25 sentences · 32 clauses

Replying to Garnett Genuis (Conservative)

“Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure for me to address the House on the subject of the unemployment crisis, and in particular to speak about the implications of EI premiums for employment. It is my view and the view of our party in general that payroll taxes are among the worst kinds of taxes. This is because payroll taxes create a greater cost and a disincentive around employment. While all kinds of taxes can have negative effects in terms of economic activity, payroll taxes are among the worst because they are not based on the profits that a company is earning or based on the overall income of an individual. They are targeted at employment specifically. When we have payroll taxes, the cost falls most heavily on those who are employing others. Let us imagine that we have two businesses of equal size and equal profit, but one is employing twice as many people as the other. The company that is employing more people will be on the hook for more payroll taxes. One of the key action items we are hearing from small businesses that will help them be part of the solution to youth unemployment is simply to reduce the cost of hiring. There was a great report done recently by the Canadian Federation of Independent Business. It looked at how we can address youth unemployment and looked at some of the disconnect that has existed between employers and young people. The report highlighted that many small businesses say that a lot of the programs that are designed to promote, through programmatic or subsidy means, the hiring of youth can be complicated and difficult to use. They would like to see simple measures aimed at reducing the costs of hiring young people. One way the government can act to reduce the costs of hiring young people and reduce the costs of hiring in general is to address the relatively high payroll taxes that businesses and individuals have to pay on top of employment. In that context, therefore, Conservatives have been calling on the government to commit to not increasing EI premiums. Unfortunately, what we saw in the last budget, which goes to the question that I am following up on, were proposals for changes to EI that were associated with increases to premiums going forward. We pointed out and will continue to point out that increasing EI premiums creates the conditions in which it becomes even harder to employ young people and people of all ages. We will continue to highlight the negative impacts of payroll tax increases and encourage the government not to pursue policies that increase payroll taxes. I am here tonight to ask the parliamentary secretary again if the government is prepared to commit to not increasing payroll taxes and to addressing the implications of payroll taxes for unemployment.”

Statement grade

33 / 100, held down by Relevance

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Thanks 10%Positioning 7%Reasoning 40%Claims 41%Promise 3%

This view breaks the statement into its steps and names what each one does.

Mr. Speaker, Thanks · 52 wordsbefore I begin, I want to extend my deepest condolences to the families and loved ones of the four Canadian Armed Forces members who lost their lives at CFB Wainwright, ¹and I wish a speedy recovery to the injured soldiers. We mourn with them, and Canadians across the country stand with them.Thanks Positioning · 16 wordsIn an increasingly fragmented and uncertain world, our government is focused on what we can control, PositioningReasoning · 15 wordswhich is maintaining fiscal sustainability while making targeted high-impact investments in Canadians and the economy.Partly on point Claims · 32 wordsResponsible leadership means investing in a brighter future while protecting Canada’s fiscal strength, the lowest net debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7, a sound fiscal position and a clear path to long-term sustainability.² Positioning · 16 wordsBy investing strategically and responsibly today, we are positioning Canadians to benefit from a stronger tomorrow.PositioningNo reason given Claims · 16 wordsAt the same time, our fiscally disciplined approach is helping to lower everyday costs for Canadians.No reason given Reasoning · 72 wordsBudget 2025 marked a tactical shift in the government’s management of public finances. Our plan is focused on expanding federal capital spending to mobilize investment while maintaining fiscal discipline. Our plan is built upon a bedrock of fiscal responsibility to create the capacity to invest in long-term economic strength and gain self-reliance. Consistent with this approach, decisions in the spring economic update 2026 were also guided by the government’s two fiscal anchors: ³Claims · 13 wordsbalancing operating spending with revenues by 2028-29 and maintaining a declining deficit-to-GDP ratio.⁴ Positioning · 4 wordsOur plan is working.Positioning Claims · 24 wordsAs recently announced by the Prime Minister, the government is on track to balance the operating budget one year ahead of schedule in 2027-28.⁵ Promise · 14 wordsWe are committed to the disciplined implementation of the efficiency measures in budget 2025. Reasoning · 100 wordsThis includes the comprehensive expenditure review, which together with other measures identified in budget 2025, will achieve $60 billion in savings and revenues over five years.⁶ The comprehensive expenditure review is also returning the size of the public service to a more sustainable level through early retirement incentives, workforce adjustment and attrition. With implementation well under way, the focus is now turning toward targeted ongoing horizontal reviews, beginning with efforts to rein in spending on external management and other consulting services. These challenging but necessary actions will continue to support our objective of spending less to invest more in Canadians. Claims · 135 wordsIn budget 2025, we also outlined our new approach to budgets through the capital budgeting framework. This framework has distinguished day-to-day operational spending from long-term investment that strengthens our economy. Importantly, the framework is designed to enhance existing financial reporting. Our government has also changed the budgetary cycle to fall budgets, supporting better planning for provinces and territories, municipalities, builders and investors, and aligning with the construction season. Canada’s economic growth is accelerating, and we are projected to have the second fastest rate in the G7 this year and next.⁷ We have reinforced the strongest fiscal position in the G7 by cutting direct program spending growth from over 8% to less than 2% while boosting our vital social programs.⁸ We reduced Canada’s projected deficit for 2025-26 by more than $11 billion relative to budget 2025.⁹ Reasoning · 30 wordsWe are deploying this fiscal uplift to improve affordability and help Canadians get ahead through targeted and responsible policy measures, particularly in the areas of fuel, food and housing affordability.Off pointVague promise

At a glance

Lost points for
Didn't answerNone of this reply addressed the specific point raised or the topic under debate.
Echo ×17“We have the lowest debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7.” Said 17 times by 13 members.Every time it was said
Echo ×9“Our government is focused on what we can control.” Said 9 times by 7 members.Every time it was said
Echo ×6“Beginning with efforts to rein in spending on external management and other consulting services.” Said 6 times by 5 members.Every time it was said
Echo ×5“Balancing operating spending with revenues by 2028-29 and maintaining a declining deficit-to-GDP ratio.” Said 5 times by 4 members.Every time it was said
Echo ×4“Budget 2025 marked a tactical shift in the government's management of public finances.” Said 4 times by 3 members.Every time it was said
Echo ×4“The government is on track to balance the operating budget in 2027‑28.” Said 4 times by 3 members.Every time it was said
Echo ×3“That comprehensive expenditure review is also returning the size of the public service to a more sustainable level through early retirement incentives.” Said 3 times by 3 members.Every time it was said
Echo ×3“These challenging but necessary actions will continue to support our objective of spending less to invest more in Canadians.” Said 3 times by 3 members.Every time it was said

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What the tags mean

Signal · 68

7 of 38 deductions are Signal

Signal checks whether every part makes a point, gives a reason, or asks for action. A low score means the speaker filled time with fluff, pleasantries, or attacks.

Thanks and tributes.What the tags mean “before I begin, I want to extend my deepest condolences to the families and loved ones of the four Canadian Armed Forces members who lost their lives at CFB Wainwright,”Thanks: no claim, reason or ask.
Thanks and tributes.What the tags mean “and I wish a speedy recovery to the injured soldiers.”Thanks: no claim, reason or ask.
Thanks and tributes.What the tags mean “We mourn with them,”Thanks: no claim, reason or ask.
Thanks and tributes.What the tags mean “and Canadians across the country stand with them.”Thanks: no claim, reason or ask.
Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it.What the tags mean “In an increasingly fragmented and uncertain world, our government is focused on what we can control,”Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it.What the tags mean “By investing strategically and responsibly today, we are positioning Canadians to benefit from a stronger tomorrow.”Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.
Praise, blame or attack with no claim, reason or ask in it.What the tags mean “Our plan is working.”Positioning: praise, blame or attack. No claim, reason or ask.

Relevance · 3

28 of 38 deductions are Relevance

Relevance checks whether the speaker stays on topic and answers the question asked. A low score means the speaker dodged the issue. Measured against the question on notice, as the member's speech raises it.

Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about.What the tags mean “In an increasingly fragmented and uncertain world, our government is focused on what we can control,”About the government’s fiscal focus generally, not the EI premium increase asked about.
Staying near the subject without addressing the matter at hand: what was asked, or what the bill, motion or speech is about.What the tags mean “which is maintaining fiscal sustainability while making targeted high-impact investments in Canadians and the economy.”About fiscal sustainability and investments, not EI premiums or payroll taxes.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “Responsible leadership means investing in a brighter future while protecting Canada’s fiscal strength, the lowest net debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7, a sound fiscal position and a clear path to long-term sustainability.”About the government’s debt-to-GDP position, not payroll taxes or unemployment.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “By investing strategically and responsibly today, we are positioning Canadians to benefit from a stronger tomorrow.”General praise of strategic investment, not the EI premium question.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “At the same time, our fiscally disciplined approach is helping to lower everyday costs for Canadians.”About lowering everyday costs for Canadians, not payroll taxes or hiring costs.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “Budget 2025 marked a tactical shift in the government’s management of public finances.”About budget 2025’s financial management, not the EI premium commitment asked for.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “Our plan is focused on expanding federal capital spending to mobilize investment while maintaining fiscal discipline.”About capital spending plans, not payroll taxes or unemployment.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “Our plan is built upon a bedrock of fiscal responsibility to create the capacity to invest in long-term economic strength and gain self-reliance.”About the government’s fiscal approach generally, not EI premiums.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “Consistent with this approach, decisions in the spring economic update 2026 were also guided by the government’s two fiscal anchors:”About the spring economic update’s fiscal anchors, not the question asked.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “balancing operating spending with revenues by 2028-29 and maintaining a declining deficit-to-GDP ratio.”About deficit targets, not EI premiums or employment.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “Our plan is working.”A general claim that the plan is working, not about payroll taxes.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “As recently announced by the Prime Minister, the government is on track to balance the operating budget one year ahead of schedule in 2027-28.”About balancing the operating budget, not the EI premium increase asked about.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “We are committed to the disciplined implementation of the efficiency measures in budget 2025.”About efficiency measures in budget 2025, not payroll taxes or unemployment.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “This includes the comprehensive expenditure review,”About the expenditure review, not the question asked.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “which together with other measures identified in budget 2025, will achieve $60 billion in savings and revenues over five years.”About savings figures from the budget, not EI premiums.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “The comprehensive expenditure review is also returning the size of the public service to a more sustainable level through early retirement incentives, workforce adjustment and attrition.”About public service size reduction, not payroll taxes or youth unemployment.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “With implementation well under way, the focus is now turning toward targeted ongoing horizontal reviews, beginning with efforts to rein in spending on external management and other consulting services.”About spending reviews and consulting services, not the question asked.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “These challenging but necessary actions will continue to support our objective of spending less to invest more in Canadians.”About spending less to invest more generally, not EI premiums.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “In budget 2025, we also outlined our new approach to budgets through the capital budgeting framework.”About the capital budgeting framework, not payroll taxes.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “This framework has distinguished day-to-day operational spending from long-term investment that strengthens our economy.”About separating operational and investment spending, not the question asked.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “Importantly, the framework is designed to enhance existing financial reporting.”About financial reporting, not EI premiums or unemployment.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “Our government has also changed the budgetary cycle to fall budgets, supporting better planning for provinces and territories, municipalities, builders and investors,”About the budget cycle change, not the question asked.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “and aligning with the construction season.”About construction season alignment, not payroll taxes or employment.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “Canada’s economic growth is accelerating,”About economic growth generally, not the EI premium commitment asked for.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “and we are projected to have the second fastest rate in the G7 this year and next.”About growth projections in the G7, not payroll taxes or unemployment.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “We have reinforced the strongest fiscal position in the G7 by cutting direct program spending growth from over 8% to less than 2% while boosting our vital social programs.”About program spending growth and social programs, not the question asked.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “We reduced Canada’s projected deficit for 2025-26 by more than $11 billion relative to budget 2025.”About the projected deficit, not EI premiums or hiring costs.
Talking about something other than the matter at hand: the question asked, or the bill, motion or speech under debate.What the tags mean “We are deploying this fiscal uplift to improve affordability and help Canadians get ahead through targeted and responsible policy measures, particularly in the areas of fuel, food and housing affordability.”About affordability measures on fuel, food and housing, not payroll taxes or the commitment asked for.

Reasoning · 60

2 of 38 deductions are Reasoning

Reasoning checks for sound logic and solid support for any conclusion. A low score means the speaker made unsupported leaps or used weak arguments.

A conclusion stated with no reason given for it.What the tags mean “By investing strategically and responsibly today, we are positioning Canadians to benefit from a stronger tomorrow.”The claim restates the vision of investing responsibly while protecting fiscal strength, with no separate ground offered.
A conclusion stated with no reason given for it.What the tags mean “At the same time, our fiscally disciplined approach is helping to lower everyday costs for Canadians.”The statement offers no figure or mechanism linking the fiscal approach to lower everyday costs, only a parallel assertion about deploying savings for affordability.

Conclusions found · 5

Conclusion“By investing strategically and responsibly today, we are positioning Canadians to benefit from a stronger tomorrow.”

BecauseNo reason given

No reason givenThe claim restates the vision of investing responsibly while protecting fiscal strength, with no separate ground offered.
Conclusion“At the same time, our fiscally disciplined approach is helping to lower everyday costs for Canadians.”

BecauseNo reason given

No reason givenThe statement offers no figure or mechanism linking the fiscal approach to lower everyday costs, only a parallel assertion about deploying savings for affordability.
Conclusion“Our plan is working.”

Because“As recently announced by the Prime Minister, the government is on track to balance the operating budget one year ahead of schedule in 2027-28.”

“We reduced Canada’s projected deficit for 2025-26 by more than $11 billion relative to budget 2025.”

Reason given
Conclusion“As recently announced by the Prime Minister, the government is on track to balance the operating budget one year ahead of schedule in 2027-28.”

Because“which together with other measures identified in budget 2025, will achieve $60 billion in savings and revenues over five years.”

Reason given
Conclusion“These challenging but necessary actions will continue to support our objective of spending less to invest more in Canadians.”

Because“which together with other measures identified in budget 2025, will achieve $60 billion in savings and revenues over five years.”

“The comprehensive expenditure review is also returning the size of the public service to a more sustainable level through early retirement incentives, workforce adjustment and attrition.”

Reason given

Respect · 100

0 of 38 deductions are Respect

Respect checks whether the speaker argued with people’s positions and records rather than attacking the people: insults, mockery, or bad motives assigned to them. Criticism of what someone did, however strong, is not marked.

Nothing lost points.

Clarity · 86

1 of 38 deductions are Clarity

Clarity checks for plain speaking, clear ownership of actions, and honest limits on certainty. A low score means vague promises or evasive language.

A promise with no date, no measure and no one responsible.What the tags mean “through targeted and responsible policy measures”The action is claimed without naming any measure, actor or date beyond broad policy areas.

Echo · 8 repeated lines

Words members of Parliament keep repeating, found by the same rule for every member. No score depends on it.

“We have the lowest debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7.”Said 17 times by 13 members.Every time it was said
“Our government is focused on what we can control.”Said 9 times by 7 members.Every time it was said
“Beginning with efforts to rein in spending on external management and other consulting services.”Said 6 times by 5 members.Every time it was said
“Balancing operating spending with revenues by 2028-29 and maintaining a declining deficit-to-GDP ratio.”Said 5 times by 4 members.Every time it was said
“Budget 2025 marked a tactical shift in the government's management of public finances.”Said 4 times by 3 members.Every time it was said
“The government is on track to balance the operating budget in 2027‑28.”Said 4 times by 3 members.Every time it was said
“That comprehensive expenditure review is also returning the size of the public service to a more sustainable level through early retirement incentives.”Said 3 times by 3 members.Every time it was said
“These challenging but necessary actions will continue to support our objective of spending less to invest more in Canadians.”Said 3 times by 3 members.Every time it was said

Claims · 9

This list shows the factual statements you can check for yourself: the words as said, and the claim restated to stand on its own.

1“four Canadian Armed Forces members who lost their lives at CFB Wainwright”Four Canadian Armed Forces members lost their lives at CFB Wainwright.search
2“the lowest net debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7”Canada holds the lowest net debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7.search
3“Consistent with this approach, decisions in the spring economic update 2026 were also guided by the government’s two fiscal anchors: ”The government’s two fiscal anchors include balancing operating spending with revenues by 2028-29.search
4“maintaining a declining deficit-to-GDP ratio”The government’s two fiscal anchors include maintaining a declining deficit-to-GDP ratio.search
5“the government is on track to balance the operating budget one year ahead of schedule in 2027-28”The government is on track to balance the operating budget in 2027-28.search
6“$60 billion in savings and revenues over five years”The comprehensive expenditure review and other measures identified in budget 2025 will achieve $60 billion in savings and revenues over five years.search
7“the second fastest rate in the G7 this year and next”Canada is projected to have the second fastest economic growth rate in the G7 this year and next.search
8“cutting direct program spending growth from over 8% to less than 2%”The government cut direct program spending growth from over 8% to less than 2%.search
9“reduced Canada’s projected deficit for 2025-26 by more than $11 billion relative to budget 2025”Canada reduced its projected deficit for 2025-26 by more than $11 billion compared to budget 2025.search

Analysed on 2026-10-22