Points of Order

This was a points-of-order exchange, not a bill debate. Scott Reid of the Conservatives raised a point of order saying the member for Kingston and the Islands had shouted loudly during question period to interrupt members asking questions, and asked whether an apology or other action was needed; the member involved, Mark Gerretsen, apologized and withdrew the remarks. Dan Albas of the Conservatives also raised a separate point of order, saying a minister had indirectly used another member’s name in an answer during question period, and asked the Speaker to address it.Written by AI from the debate. Updated .

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Scott Reid, Lanark—Frontenac

Conservative
“The member for Kingston and the Islands kept shouting during question period to interrupt other members. He yelled so loudly that it was hard for me to focus on my speech. Our rules say members cannot interrupt someone who is speaking. I want to know if he needs to apologize or face other action for this.”
Official Hansard

Mr. Speaker, during question period, the hon. member for Kingston and the Islands was repeatedly carrying on a very high-volume monologue, the purpose of which, I believe, was to interrupt the ability of members who were posing questions to concentrate and to ask their questions properly. That, of course, would be a violation of Standing Order 16(2), which states, “When a member is speaking, no member shall pass between that member and the chair, nor interrupt him or her, except to raise a point of order.” During my own remarks, which were dealing with an aspect of Canadian correctional services, the member was speaking so loudly that it was very difficult for me to concentrate. One of the goals of producing an effective debate in the House is to have us be capable of speaking in a normal speaking voice, as I am doing now, as opposed to yelling at each other. Had I been yelling, I think I could have successfully drowned out the member’s yelling, but it is very difficult to carry on a civilized debate when this kind of, frankly, uncivilized behaviour is going on. I have no idea if that constitutes something for which the member should apologize. One cannot retract a loud voice, but whatever the situation is, I seek your guidance on this, Mr. Speaker.

Mark Gerretsen, Kingston and the Islands

Liberal
“I am sorry for interrupting the member. Heckling happens, but it was wrong. I apologize and take back what I said.”
Official Hansard

Mr. Speaker, I would sincerely like to apologize to the member for interrupting him. I do know that from time to time many members of the House get excited when listening to others discuss stuff, and certainly I am not the first person to ever heckle, but it does not mean it was right. Therefore, I apologize to the member and certainly withdraw my statement.

Dan Albas, Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna

Conservative
“A member broke the rules by using another member's last name in his answer. He hid it by saying the words 'long-term.' I want you to address this rule breaking.”
Official Hansard

Mr. Speaker, I know that in question period it can be very difficult to have everything running the way you would want, but I will bring to your attention that the hon. member, the Secretary of State for the Canada Revenue Agency, in his response to a Conservative member’s question, did indirectly what he cannot do directly, which is to use a member’s last name. In fact, the use of the term “long-term” effect, is salting his statements—

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