Adjournment Proceedings

In adjournment proceedings, a Conservative member asked whether the government will balance the budget by 2028-29, citing the Parliamentary Budget Officer’s projection that the date will slip and questioning the practice of separating operating and capital spending. A Liberal member defended the budgeting framework as sound fiscal planning, pointed to economic growth and wage gains, and said the government plans to balance day-to-day spending while cutting spending over five years. The Conservative member pressed again on who was right, the PBO or the Prime Minister; the Liberal member said the PBO does not have the government’s latest numbers and pointed to the upcoming fall budget.Written by AI from the debate. Updated .

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Grant Jackson, Brandon—Souris

Conservative

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“The government is splitting its budget into different types of spending to hide how much debt it has. The Parliamentary Budget Officer says the budget will not be balanced until a year later than promised, but the Prime Minister claims they are ahead of schedule. Will the government still balance the budget by 2028-29, or is the Prime Minister wrong?”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, when the Liberals first announced their costly credit card budget last fall, Conservatives asked where their platform commitment to spend less and invest more went. Then, when the Prime Minister announced that he planned to split operating and capital spending in the Liberal budget, the alarm bells started to go off. Canadians do not get to split their credit card spending into different categories and pretend they owe less money. The Prime Minister should not get to do that either. Since then, the Parliamentary Budget Officer has found contradictions in how the Liberals classify spending, making it harder to determine whether they are actually meeting their own fiscal targets. The Prime Minister claims that they are ahead of their targets, but the PBO projects that the Liberals will not balance their operating budget until 2029 or 2030, a year later than originally promised. The question is simple. Does the government still stand by its promise to balance the operating budget by 2028-29? If not, who is misinformed, the Prime Minister or the Parliamentary Budget Officer?

Ryan Turnbull, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance and National Revenue and to the Secretary of State (Canada Revenue Agency and Financial Institutions)

Liberal
“Our budget plan separates daily spending from long-term investments. This is good financial planning that helps our economy grow. Because of our investments, wages are growing faster than inflation, and Canada had the best recent economic growth in the G7. We will also balance our day-to-day spending.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to stand up and talk about best practices in fiscal management. I think our government has done a great thing in having a capital budgeting framework and splitting out operational from capital spending so that our capital budgeting framework can help support capital formation in the economy. The members opposite should agree with the fact that investment that is strategic in revenue generation for our economy creates an investment supercycle and will create a virtuous circle of investment and growth in the economy. Growth begets growth. We get growth in the economy, higher productivity and higher wages, which we have seen every month that the government has been in power. Wages have outpaced inflation. Per capita GDP growth has been up as well. We had the highest quarterly GDP growth in the G7. The member opposite does not seem to like to hear those statistics. For ages in the House, maybe before the member joined us in the House, we heard Conservatives talk about GDP per capita as being the number one indicator of economic health in the country. We now have that, and that is great. As to whether we are going to close the gap in terms of balancing the operational budget, I will answer the member directly: Yes, we will.

Grant Jackson, Brandon—Souris

Conservative
“The member did not answer my question. The Prime Minister and the budget watchdog say different things about the country's spending. I want to know who the member agrees with.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, the member took a very long time to get to that answer. I do not need to address the litany of false things that he put on the record. He did not address the question about whether the Parliamentary Budget Officer or the Prime Minister is misinformed. They are saying two different things about the fiscal outlook for the government’s budget and spending habits. Which is it? Does the member disagree with the Prime Minister, or does he think the Parliamentary Budget Officer is wrong in the statements that he is putting out there about the financial path that the government is on?

Ryan Turnbull, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance and National Revenue and to the Secretary of State (Canada Revenue Agency and Financial Institutions)

Liberal
“First, the Parliamentary Budget Officer is a woman, Annette Ryan. I respect her work, but she does not have the government's newest numbers. Wait for the fall budget to see our updated plan. We are cutting $60 billion in spending over five years, and we plan to balance the operating budget in two years.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, let me correct the member opposite first. The Parliamentary Budget Officer is a woman, not a man. It is Annette Ryan, and she is doing a wonderful job. I believe highly in the work of the Parliamentary Budget Officer. The function of that office is very important to our democracy. I cannot tell the member whether she is right. All I can say is that she is basing her projections on the information that she has, and they are not the most current projections of the federal government. Obviously, budget 2026 is coming before the House sometime this fall, and the member opposite will see the update on how our government is progressing toward one of our key fiscal anchors, which is to balance the operating budget. This is key because our government has conducted a comprehensive expenditure review, saving $60 billion over five years. That is part of the process of how we will balance the operating budget over the next two years.

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