Points of Order

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Garnett Genuis, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan

Conservative
“The government side also interrupted and caused noise. The parliamentary secretary made a comment about a member from Alberta asking questions, and members started shouting.”
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Mr. Speaker, the last time the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Fisheries rose in the House, he said the following: “It is interesting that the Conservatives have a member from Alberta asking questions about— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!

Scott Reid, Lanark—Frontenac

Conservative
“The member should not get to redo their statement. Heckling only breaks the rules if it drowns out the person speaking. In this case, the recording was fine, and the rules were not broken.”
Official Hansard

Mr. Speaker, I rise on the same point of order. There are frequently comments and heckles during member statements and question period. The question is, with respect to Standing Order 16(2), where is the line crossed? I think the reasonable expectation would be that if something interrupted the ability of the member to actually get a recording, if the sound was so loud that the intervention could not be properly heard, then I would say that violates Standing Order 16(2). My understanding is that, in this particular case, that did not happen, and in fact, the recording is fine. We cannot hear the commentary of the member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan. As a result, I suggest that Standing Order 16(2) was not, in this case, violated and that there therefore is no need to redo the S. O. 31 statement.

Garnett Genuis, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan

Conservative
“Another member made unfair comments against Alberta, and the Speaker still has not ruled on them. If someone spoke that way about British Columbia, Quebec, or Ontario, the House would make them take it back. That member must be held accountable for how he talks about Alberta.”
Official Hansard

Mr. Speaker, I had raised the issue previously of the grossly unparliamentary anti-Alberta remarks of that member. When I had, the Speaker responded, which is a matter of past practice, as you know. The Speaker said at the time, “It would not be proper if somebody did that, but unfortunately, the Chair did not hear that.” He later said, “I do not know [what] it was. I will check the record.” The Speaker acknowledged that remarks of that character were improper. The Speaker has yet to come back to the House to rule on the unparliamentary anti-Alberta comments of the member for South Surrey—White Rock. I think that member needs to address the way he speaks about people from my region. If comments like that were made about members from B.C., where he is from, members from Quebec or members from Ontario, I think the House would have no problem acknowledging that they were unparliamentary and the member would have to retract those comments. The member needs to be accountable for the way he talks about Alberta.

John Brassard, Barrie South—Innisfil

Conservative
“Yesterday, the Prime Minister and the finance minister walked in waving the budget around. They disrupted the member who was speaking. That broke her right to speak without disruption. I want the Speaker to watch the video from yesterday and make a ruling.”
Official Hansard

Yes, Mr. Speaker. On this point of order, related to the same standing order, I know you were in the chair yesterday when this happened. I was in the House. The Prime Minister and the finance minister walked in, waving the budget around like we were in some sort of Roman Colosseum. Maybe sometimes it seems that way, but I will say that I believe, Mr. Speaker, if you look back at the tapes, you will see that the member who was speaking was disrupted at that point as she was talking about government business. I believe her privileges to speak freely and not be disrupted in this place with respect to government business were breached yesterday. I would ask that the Speaker take it back, look at the tapes and look at the way they entered this place and disrupted the proceedings of the House.

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