Public Services and Procurement

In question period on government procurement, the Bloc Québécois asked about cost overruns on the Cúram software used to pay old age security, saying the government added $451 million after denying problems and used its new majority in committee to end investigations into the overruns and the Driver Inc. issue. Minister Steven MacKinnon said nothing was hidden, that the procurement and budgets were transparent, and that the software helps millions of seniors receive payments securely. Minister Patty Hajdu said $1.8 billion of a $4.8-billion budget had been spent and that the old age security modernization was delivered under budget, with information shared with opposition parties.Written by AI from the debate. Updated .

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Sébastien Lemire, Abitibi—Témiscamingue

Bloc Québécois
“The government added $451 million to pay for software cost overruns after saying there were no problems. Then they blocked a committee investigation into it. Why are the Liberals hiding this information from Quebeckers?”
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Mr. Speaker, the Liberals are abusing their majority to cover up the Cúram software scandal. After spending months denying that any problem related to OAS or any cost overruns even existed, the government has added $451 million for Cúram and the Canada Revenue Agency to its economic update. That means another cost overrun where none was supposed to exist, to fix problems where no problems were supposed to exist either. We will never know why, because the Liberals either resorted to filibustering or used their majority in committee to kill an investigation into Cúram. Why are they hiding this information from Quebeckers?

Steven MacKinnon, Minister of Transport and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Liberal
“We are not hiding anything. We bought this software openly and stayed on budget. It helps millions of Canadian seniors get their payments safely every month.”
Official Hansard

Mr. Speaker, no one is hiding anything from anyone. Everything has been transparent. The procurement process was transparent. Budgets were transparent and were met. This software is helping us bring security to the lives of millions of Canadian seniors every month.

Sébastien Lemire, Abitibi—Témiscamingue

Bloc Québécois
“The Liberals are using their committee majority to shut down investigations into government spending and services. They are hiding things. I want the Prime Minister to step in and stop this.”
Official Hansard

Mr. Speaker, that is why the program has gone over budget five times already. The Liberals have had a majority in committee for seven days now. Already, they have killed an investigation into the Cúram cost overruns, which now total $7 billion. They decided that the investigation into Driver Inc. should be in camera, as though they care more about protecting dangerous truckers than the lives of Quebeckers. They have also shut down investigations into health care, veterans’ services, the aerospace sector, and more. A culture of secrecy has taken hold in Ottawa. When will the Prime Minister step in and stop this abuse of power?

Patty Hajdu, Minister of Jobs and Families and Minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Northern Ontario

Liberal
“We have spent $1.8 billion out of our $4.8-billion budget to modernize these systems. Our work on the old age security system actually came in under budget. We have shared all this information openly with the opposition parties.”
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Official Hansard

Mr. Speaker, since the program to modernize these processes began, $1.8 billion has been invested out of a total budget of $4.8 billion. In fact, the modernization of old age security was delivered under budget, which is a testament to how rigorously this project was managed. This information was disclosed in a fully transparent manner and reviewed by the opposition parties and the committee chaired by the opposition.

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