“The libs are ignoring experts. The bill won't fix things. Most cases won't even go to civilian court. The courts can't handle it. What's the plan? Are you just going to let predators off?”
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A bill to modernize the military justice system, including changes to appointments, removing jurisdiction for sexual offences, and expanding the class of persons eligible to be military judges. During debate, the Conservatives argued the bill doesn't go far enough, the Liberals defended it as an important step, and both sides discussed the importance of believing and empowering victims. Some time was spent on tangents about the House majority and military funding.
“I want to make it very simple. We should say”
“I'm disgusted by Liberals lecturing me about harassment when their own ministers have been found guilty of it. And don't try to impress me by quoting some international law expert, I can quote a different expert right back at you.”
“I'm thanking other parties for helping us change this bill in committee. The NDP used to help but now they joined the Liberals. Our party agrees on most of the changes.”
“I want more voters to hear you repeat your best line again.”
“I want my party to look like we care more than the government. I say it's the government's fault victims don't hear 'I believe you'.”
“I'm filling time with tangents about a song and the Liberal majority because we actually agree on this bill. I think it's a shame that victims won't get more choice, but my party looks good if we drag this out.”
“That's not a complete answer. I want victims to pick what they think is fastest. The other system is slow right now. You brought up a report writer's name a lot.”
“I want Arbour to come to committee and answer questions. It bothers me that she didn't.”
“I agree with you. The Liberals care more about politics than helping victims or respecting justice. That's terrible.”
“Thanks for the history lesson. But let's be real, I'm just using this question to complain about floor-crossers. I want you to know I don't like it when politicians switch teams and then get put on important committees. That doesn't seem right to me.”
“I don't like that the Liberals put the floor crossers next to the Prime Minister. It's like they're showing off a prize. Those floor crossers have no shame, just like the Liberals.”
“I'm repeating nice-sounding words about the military and sexual assault legislation. I want the government to listen to victims and give them choices. I don't like that the government is rushing this bill.”
“I'm saying the bill is all about giving back choice to victims. I want a justice system where victims can decide where to take their case. They should be able to choose where they feel safest and most supported. But the government's proposal would take away that choice and force all victims into the civilian system. That's going to break trust with the people we're asking to come forward. We need to do this right, not just rush it through quickly.”
“I'm upset the government isn't listening to veterans. Veterans should get to decide where their case is heard. The government shouldn't make that choice for them. Conservatives will stand up for veterans' right to choose.”
“The government isn't taking this seriously. Veterans watching this debate won't think the government will take their complaints seriously. Future soldiers and their families will worry they won't be heard.”
“That's a good question. Veterans have talked to us. They want us to listen. We need to show we care. Then they will keep talking to us.”
“You keep asking the same thing. You talk about one report. There are a lot of reports. Why do you ignore the rest? Tell me about that.”
“Nobody can tell what's going on. You have a manufactured majority. The Arbour report is old news. The military says it's moved on. We need current information to reform the system, not old talking points.”
“I don't like that the government ignored the committee's advice on this bill. They're pushing military sexual assault cases onto civilian courts without the resources they need. They aren't listening to the experts or increasing the independence of the military justice system. If they don't support the committee's amendments, they'll lose my vote.”