Justice

Question period focused on how often convicted murderers can face parole reviews, with members raising the case of Paul Bernardo’s upcoming hearing and the toll repeated hearings take on victims’ families. Conservatives, including Rhonda Kirkland, Laila Goodridge and Roman Baber, pressed the government to change the law so hearings are less frequent, citing victims’ advocates and the Toronto Police Association, and pointed to their own bill, C-243, which they said would have lengthened the time between hearings. Government ministers Ruby Sahota and Gary Anandasangaree said the parole system has not been changed under this government, argued that public safety and victims’ rights are priorities for the government, noted that parole has not been granted in the case raised, and accused Conservatives of delaying government justice bills such as C-8 and C-9. Anandasangaree also said these issues should be addressed collaboratively rather than politicized, noting the Charter protects everyone’s rights.Written by AI from the debate. Updated .

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Rhonda Kirkland, Oshawa

Conservative
“I want this bill to pass. Murderers get parole hearings too often, and it forces victims' families to relive their pain again and again. The government needs to change this.”
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Mr. Speaker, Toronto police constable Todd Baylis was just 25 years old when he was murdered in the line of duty. His family has relived that tragic loss at parole hearings in 2019, 2021 and 2024, and will again in just a few months. For 14 years, victims’ advocate Lisa Freeman from Oshawa has repeatedly been forced to face the axe murderer who bludgeoned her father to death. Liberal parole has caused this problem, and victims’ families are demanding change. Why do the Liberals keep making victims constantly relive their worst day? People get a chance at parole every time.

Ruby Sahota, Secretary of State (Combatting Crime)

Liberal
“Our government has not changed the parole system, and people do not get parole every time. The Conservatives are saying things that are not true to score political points. We are still open to good changes to this bill.”
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Mr. Speaker, although I respect the sentiment, this is not Liberal parole. We have not made changes under this government. People do not get parole every single time. For instance, in this case, the assailant has not gotten parole. Therefore, I think a lot of what is being said by the Conservatives is not factual. They are trying to politicize this matter. As I have said before, we are open to amendments that are appropriate.

Rhonda Kirkland, Oshawa

Conservative
“The Liberals voted down a bill to make murderers wait longer between parole hearings. This hurts the victims' families. Police and victims want this fixed. I want the government to admit its mistake and put the rights of victims ahead of killers.”
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Mr. Speaker, clearly the Liberals are missing the point. It is the Conservative mission to keep Canadians safe. Conservatives have already given the Liberal government opportunity to fix its failed Liberal parole. Yes, it is Liberal parole, because Bill C-243 would have increased time between parole hearings for convicted murderers so families would not have to repeatedly go through the traumatizing ordeal. The Liberals voted it down. Now police associations and victims are calling for action. Will the Liberals admit they got this wrong and scrap Liberal parole for the rights of victims? These need to come before the rights of killers.

Ruby Sahota, Secretary of State (Combatting Crime)

Liberal

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“The Conservatives do not keep Canadians safe. That is the government's job, and we are doing it. The Conservatives have only delayed safety bills, and they voted against victims' rights and stronger hate crime laws.”
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Mr. Speaker, that is completely incorrect. It has not been the Conservatives’ role in the current Parliament to keep Canadians safe. That is the job of the government, and that is the job we have been doing. All they have done all along is delay. They delayed lawful access. They voted against Bill C-16, the protecting victims’ rights bill. They also voted against strengthening hate crime laws in this country. They are not for public safety. They are for letting criminals go free.

Laila Goodridge, Fort McMurray—Cold Lake

Conservative
“I want this bill to pass. Convicted serial killers should not get parole hearings every couple of years. Repeated hearings force victims' families to relive their pain.”
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Mr. Speaker, heinous serial killers should not get to plead their case and have a chance at parole every couple of years. This is precisely why Conservatives brought forward the Conservative bill Brian’s bill: to respect victims’ families. Paul Bernardo is a convicted serial rapist and killer, yet he will get his fourth chance at parole, while the victims’ families suffer. Trial lawyer Tim Danson said, “It’s just pure entertainment for him. He has no remorse.” Why do the Liberals keep making the families of victims relive the worst days of their lives?

Gary Anandasangaree, Minister of Public Safety

Liberal
“I want to honour Leslie Mahaffy, Kristen French, and Tammy Homolka. This killer terrified my community, and many people still suffer from what he did. We will keep working with the Toronto police.”
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Mr. Speaker, let me take a moment to honour the lives of Leslie Mahaffy, Kristen French and Tammy Homolka. As the House may know, this individual who has been in jail for a long period of time went to the University of Toronto Scarborough campus and petrified my community of Scarborough—Guildwood—Rouge Park. The impact that this individual has had on our society is unprecedented, and I know that many people continue to struggle with the impact this individual has had. I can assure the House that we will continue to work with the Toronto police—

Laila Goodridge, Fort McMurray—Cold Lake

Conservative
“The Liberals voted down a bill that would make convicted murderers wait longer between parole hearings. That decision forces victims' families to go through hearings every couple of years.”
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Mr. Speaker, the Liberals are allowing families to be retraumatized. The Conservatives gave you guys an opportunity to fix this. Bill C-243 would have increased the time between parole hearings for convicted murderers so families would not have to go through this ordeal every couple of years. You voted it down. The Liberals voted it down.

Laila Goodridge, Fort McMurray—Cold Lake

Conservative
“The Toronto Police Association wants the government to stop making families face their loved ones' killers again and again. The Liberals need to admit they were wrong and change the law to put victims' rights ahead of murderers' rights.”
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Mr. Speaker, the Toronto Police Association is demanding that the government, the Liberals, stop forcing families to repeatedly face the killers of their loved ones. Will the Liberals admit they were wrong and change the law so victims’ rights come before the rights of convicted murderers?

Gary Anandasangaree, Minister of Public Safety

Liberal
“The Conservatives have spent the last six months delaying and fighting our bills. They slowed down bills on bail, sentencing, and victims' rights, and they blocked a bill meant to fight hate and protect vulnerable people.”
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Mr. Speaker, let us just go back over the last six months and see the record of the Conservative Party of Canada. On Bill C-8, the party opposite dragged its feet and opposed the bill initially. Regarding Bill C-9, on protecting and combatting hate, the Conservatives fought tooth and nail right until the end and blocked this legislation that is going to help vulnerable communities. On Bill C-14, which is strengthening bail and sentencing, as well as Bill C-16, on the victims’ rights, again, the Conservatives dragged their feet. That is the—

Roman Baber, North York

Conservative
“Murderers should not get parole hearings every two years. These hearings hurt the victims' families over and over again. I want the minister to change our parole laws to protect these families.”
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Mr. Speaker, serial rapist and killer Paul Bernardo will have a fourth chance at parole this January. The lawyer for the families of Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French said, “It’s just pure entertainment for [Bernardo].” Sadistic murderers should not have a parole hearing every two years. They traumatize their victims’ families again and again. Conservatives put forward a bill to end this practice, but the Liberals voted it down. I would like a clear answer from the public safety minister. Will the Liberals finally protect these families by scrapping Liberal parole?

Gary Anandasangaree, Minister of Public Safety

Liberal
“We should not play politics with bail, parole, and public safety. We must work together on these issues. We stand with victims, but the Charter also protects the rights of everyone.”
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Mr. Speaker, let me just underscore that the issues around public safety, issues around parole and issues around bail should never be politicized. These are very important issues that we need to collaborate on and work together on. That is why I find it rather difficult when these issues are politicized. We will always stand with victims. We will always stand with people who are impacted. We also need to recognize that we have the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which balances the interests of both.

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