Adjournment Proceedings

An adjournment debate on CORCAN, the Correctional Service of Canada’s inmate employment and skills training program. Scott Reid of the Conservatives said the program employs 608 people at a salary cost of $66 million to train about 1,056 inmates, roughly $62,000 per prisoner per year, and argued studies show it does not help participants keep jobs or avoid reoffending. He also said Corrections Canada, in meeting a $132-million savings target, eliminated 25 community employment coordinators who help former inmates find work, and argued the savings should come from CORCAN instead. Jacques Ramsay, a Liberal parliamentary secretary, replied that CORCAN gives offenders a sense of purpose, promotes pro-social behaviour, teaches trades such as farming, construction and welding, and helps them find employment, which he said contributes to safer institutions and communities. He said he did not share Reid’s view and that all members want safer communities.Written by AI from the debate. Updated .

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Scott Reid, Lanark—Frontenac

Conservative
“The prison job training program costs 66 million dollars in salaries alone. It spends 62,000 dollars a year for each prisoner, but studies show it does not help them keep jobs or stay out of prison. Most inmates work other prison jobs that cost much less. The minister needs to explain why we are spending money on a program that does not work.”
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Mr. Speaker, I am returning to a question I raised regarding CORCAN last week. CORCAN is the inmate skills development wing of Corrections Canada. Last week, I asked why CORCAN employs 608 individuals, at a cost of $66 million in salaries alone, to train only 1,056 inmates in rudimentary tasks like farm chores, apple picking and sewing. The public safety minister responded to my question with a heartwarming story about a trip he took with the Governor General to a prison in Saskatchewan. That was a very unsatisfactory answer, so I am back again to point out that the per-prisoner cost of a CORCAN education per year is $62,000, which is half the tuition at Harvard University and is also more than the average Canadian earns in a year. At this price, one would assume that the investment is justified by astoundingly good public safety outcomes and a very low rate of recidivism for people who receive CORCAN training, but as it turns out, that is not the case. The government has defended CORCAN by pointing over and over again, when I raise these questions in this place, to a research report by Corrections Canada published in 2014 that found that former inmates who find post-release employment are less likely to reoffend. Of course that is true, but I am not sure that the government read the rest of the research report, because it concludes, based on measurable data, that “Involvement in CORCAN employment [while incarcerated] was not found to have a significant impact on the length of time that offenders retained their first job post-release” and that “CORCAN participation was not directly linked to reductions in recidivism.” In other words, CORCAN does not make a person any more likely to maintain employment after serving time in prison and therefore makes no difference to that person’s employment status and does not reduce their likelihood of reoffending. In fact, the research in the same study found “no significant differences” whether prisoners worked for CORCAN, worked a non-CORCAN job in prison or did nothing at all. Here is an interesting fact. Eight times as many prisoners, 7,944 to be exact, worked while incarcerated in non-CORCAN jobs last year compared to only 1,056 in CORCAN jobs, at a much lower cost. CORCAN is therefore as redundant as it is inefficient and expensive. Why are we spending $66 million to add nothing at all to the skills prisoners receive? The minister asked us to look at what he calls the remarkable success of CORCAN. I see no success whatsoever. Why does this program exist at all?

Jacques Ramsay, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Safety

Liberal
“Job training programs in federal prisons keep people safe. Inmates who learn skills are less likely to commit crimes when they get out. These programs teach real jobs like farming, construction, and welding, and they help people find work.”
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Mr. Speaker, through CORCAN, the Correctional Service of Canada actively enhances the safety and security of our institutions and our communities. CORCAN programming does that by providing offenders with a sense of purpose, promoting pro-social behaviour and allowing them to participate in meaningful work. This reduces the risk of violence among offenders in CSC institutions, thereby benefiting the safety of other inmates as well as our correctional staff. CORCAN’s public safety benefits extend much further than within our correctional institutions, as CORCAN actively enhances public safety by providing offenders with the employment skills and experience necessary to become productive, law-abiding citizens and skilled workers when they return to their communities. We all want safer communities for our friends, our loved ones and our constituents. That is why I am proud to acknowledge that employability-related training is available at all federal institutions. This is in addition to the CORCAN-operated on-the-job training sites at 34 CSC institutions across the country and in six community-based operations. Additionally, Correctional Service Canada provides apprenticeship opportunities to offenders through certain on-the-job training assignments in institutions, as well as through the CORCAN community industries program during transitional employment. Research clearly demonstrates that offenders who are employed in their communities are less likely to reoffend and return to federal custody. This is why vocational training for offenders remains so important. Not only is it our duty to do so, but it is effective and it works. It provides offenders with knowledge and skills that are transferable to the workplace and are aligned with industry and the Canadian labour market. Vocational training also results in industry-recognized certificates that enhance the employability of offenders, thereby promoting greater rehabilitation. In fiscal year 2025-26, there were 20,714 certificates earned by offenders for their work in vocational training programs. Further, staff and contractors, and general employment services available in the community, assisted offenders under community supervision to obtain 2,425 community job placements. In response to the member opposite’s question, I would like to advise that offenders participate in training and work programs that are directly transferable and in line with the Canadian labour market. This includes areas of farming, construction, welding, manufacturing and work in the food industry, among others. These are the skills being promoted by CSC facilities, including within CORCAN.

Scott Reid, Lanark—Frontenac

Conservative
“The government is cutting the wrong prison jobs to save money. It fired 25 workers who help former prisoners find jobs. It should cut the prison work program instead, which would save much more money and does not work. Did government researchers tell the truth when they called that program outdated?”
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Mr. Speaker, the government asked Corrections Canada to make cuts to save $132 million over the next three years. To that end, Corrections Canada has eliminated 25 community employment coordinators. These are the people who actually help prisoners find jobs after they are in prison. Firing these employment coordinators saved $2.7 million. Now, it seems to me the wrong cuts are being made. Eliminating a totally unnecessary and ineffective program like CORCAN would save at least $198 million, and that is just the salaries, over the next three years and would save the jobs of the employment coordinators, who actually make a difference in finding jobs for ex-convicts and making our communities safer. Does the government have it backwards? Were the researchers at Corrections Canada right when they said, in a report to the minister, “CORCAN is an outdated model”?

Jacques Ramsay, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Safety

Liberal

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“I support our prison job-training program. It teaches inmates useful skills and helps them get real jobs when they get out. Offenders who find work are less likely to commit crimes again, which makes our communities safer.”
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Mr. Speaker, I do not share that opinion. I think CORCAN does help the labour market, and it helps inmates to achieve their rehabilitation and be productive in our society. I would just remind the hon. member that as members of Parliament, we all want safer communities for our friends, loved ones and constituents. Having inmates going into permanent jobs, jobs that are giving them skills and a salary, is a good way to prevent reoffending. It is in pursuit of this goal that I am pleased to highlight the positive interventions provided by CORCAN that provide offenders with the skills and competencies necessary and that are aligned with labour needs. As stated, there is a direct correlation between an offender’s ability to find employment and rates of recidivism.

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