Business of Supply

The House debated a Conservative opposition day motion to remove all federal taxes on gasoline and diesel for the rest of the year and cancel the clean fuel regulations, as a response to high living costs. Conservatives said fuel taxes are pushing up prices for families and businesses and that the government’s existing measures are not enough. Liberals pointed to affordability steps they have taken, including cutting gas prices by 28 cents a litre, middle-class tax relief, $10-a-day child care, a grocery rebate and cancelling the consumer carbon tax, and questioned why members would not support the existing partial fuel tax pause. The NDP, Bloc Québécois and Greens opposed the motion, arguing that tax cuts are mostly pocketed by oil companies through higher prices, that the parliamentary budget officer and other experts say the cut mainly benefits wealthier Canadians, and that the lost revenue funds public transit and climate goals; the NDP proposed instead an excess profits tax on oil companies and price caps at the pump, and Bloc members raised unpaid carbon-tax amounts owed to Quebec. Much of the debate also took the form of exchanges over whether oil companies capture tax cuts and how best to provide cost-of-living relief.Written by AI from the debate. Updated .

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Don Davies, Vancouver Kingsway

NDP
“I do not support this Conservative motion. Canadians need help with high living costs, but cutting gas taxes only helps big oil companies make more money. Even after the government cut the fuel tax, gas prices still went up. We should put a tax on record oil profits, cap prices at the pump, and protect our clean fuel rules instead.”
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Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to follow my hon. colleague from Saanich—Gulf Islands. I will be picking up some of the same themes she articulated so well. There are a few things about this motion that I want to agree with and thank my Conservative colleagues for pointing out. First of all, across this country, people are being stretched to the breaking point, and this motion is predicated on that acknowledgement. The cost of essentials, from groceries to rent and energy, continues to soar. Half of Canadians are living paycheque to paycheque. That is a fact I mention often in this place because I think it is profound. I want to emphasize that. Half of Canadians are two paycheques away from economic disaster. One in four parents is cutting back on food or skipping meals to feed their children. This is in a G7 country that my colleagues on the Liberal side of the House call an energy superpower, where 25% of parents cannot get enough food to eat because they are worried about their children. I also agree very much that Canadians need immediate relief from this affordability crisis. I further agree that after 11 years of Liberal government, at a certain point, we have to ask ourselves who is responsible for the current situation and who is accountable for the policy decisions that have gotten us in this position. They did not just happen. It is not only a cause of external factors, but a result of 11 years of misguided policies and lack of action by the Liberal government on the very basic foundations of affordability, which have caused so many Canadians to be struggling today. However, I do think that the Conservatives are proposing an ineffective measure that amounts to a corporate giveaway, with no guarantee that any savings will actually reach consumers, which also sets back environmental progress even more than is already the case under the current Liberal government. Conservatives want Canadians to believe that this is simply about taxes and regulation, but the evidence tells a different story. Gas prices are not set principally by tax levels or even basic supply and demand. They are shaped by global oil markets, financial speculation and the pricing power of a highly concentrated industry. The gasoline that Canadians buy today was refined weeks ago from oil produced months ago, often at much lower costs, yet prices at the pump can rise quickly in response to global events and market expectations, long before any real change in physical supply or production costs occurs. Canada produces far more oil than we consume. Three-quarters of our production is exported. Of the modest volumes imported into eastern Canada, almost none comes through the Persian Gulf. In other words, there is no energy supply shock in Canada. The cost of producing and refining gas has not changed at all in this country, yet Canadian consumers are being hammered at the pumps. That is because a significant driver of price movement is speculation in global oil markets. The truth is that traders respond to geopolitical developments and anticipated risks by bidding up prices based on expectations of disruption. These financial signals can move prices at the pump even when nothing at all has been changed in the real supply of fuel. This is also why the Conservatives’ call to simply get out of the way and further deregulate the sector would not stabilize prices. In fact, it would do the opposite. It would tie Canadians even more directly to volatile global markets, where speculation and shocks are immediately passed through to consumers, rather than strengthening any insulation from them. Tax cuts and deregulation will never solve this problem. If underlying market prices are being driven up by speculation and price gouging, removing taxes does not stop that dynamic. It simply reduces government revenue while leaving the same pricing system in place. Savings will not be passed on to consumers; rather, they will be absorbed into higher corporate profit margins. What I have just said is not just theory. We have already seen this approach fail to lower prices for Canadians in real time recently. The Liberal government temporarily suspended the fuel excise tax on April 20 at a cost of approximately $2.4 billion, claiming it would reduce gas prices by 10¢ per litre. Instead, prices have continued to increase while oil and gas giants continue to post record profits. When the suspension came into effect, the national average gas price was 169.1¢ per litre. Today, the national average price is $1.83 per litre. In Vancouver, where I live, a litre of gas is now routinely over two dollars. The result of the Liberals’ removing the excise tax since April 20 is that, so far, prices have gone up. Not a single consumer in Canada has benefited from the Liberal move, and this was predicted by New Democrats at the very time this excise tax reduction was put in place. This experience demonstrates a key point. When underlying market prices are driven by speculation and price gouging, tax cuts do not reliably translate into lower prices at the pump. That is one of the key flaws of the Conservative motion here today, which seeks to do that even more so. Instead, the benefit of the reduction in excise tax can be absorbed into higher margins in an already highly profitable sector. I have no doubt that oil companies have already absorbed at least a portion of that 10¢ excise tax reduction. Certainly, there was nothing in the Liberals’ measure to stop them from doing that. As I have said already, the proof is in the pudding. Prices have gone up since the Liberals said their measure would take prices down. While Canadians struggle with affordability, oil and gas giants are positioned to capture massive windfall gains. We are going to see some $90 billion in profits for Canadian oil companies this year. They were slated to make $30 billion in profits this year but are now expecting an additional $60 billion in profits as a result of the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran. Yet, Conservatives want to hand these same corporations another tax break with no mechanism that is guaranteed to ensure that consumers benefit, and the Liberals consistently refuse to bring in a windfall profits tax on the oil and gas companies and use those funds to provide real relief to Canadians who desperately need it. There is no question that Canadians need relief. The real question is this: How do we make sure that relief reaches working people instead of padding corporate balance sheets? Rather than writing a blank cheque to oil giants, the government should look at measures to cap prices at the pump, crack down on profiteering and ensure that savings are actually passed on to consumers. Other countries, and Canada itself in past moments of crisis, have recognized this basic principle. When extraordinary windfall profits are generated by crisis-driven price spikes, the public has a right to recoup a fair share of those gains rather than allowing them to be fully privatized. They have a right to expect that their governments will protect them from what is called “war profiteering”. We have done this before. During both world wars, the Canadian government used excess profit measures to ensure that wartime windfalls were redirected toward the public good and the national effort, not captured by private interests. More recently, during the COVID pandemic, the Liberal government itself imposed an excise profits tax on major banks, recognizing that extraordinary gains during a national crisis should not simply remain as private profit. New Democrats believe, respectfully, that the same principle applies today in the oil and gas sector. I will pause for a moment to say that the motion also calls on the government to permanently scrap the clean fuel standard. That standard requires primary fuel suppliers, refiners and importers to progressively reduce the life cycle carbon intensity of the gasoline and diesel they produce and sell. This measure aims to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 30 million tonnes annually by 2030. It encourages fuel providers to innovate, like blending lower-carbon biofuels like ethanol into their products; invest in renewable energy sources; or purchase credits from EV charging providers. This motion would set that back, and New Democrats cannot support that. Finally, Jack Layton is the person who got the Liberal government to devote one cent of the federal excise gas tax to municipalities, including to provide stable funding for public transit. New Democrats will continue to work for positive proposals like that, instead of measures that will not help consumers, will hurt the government’s ability to innovate and will pad the profits of an oil and gas sector that is already enriching itself at the cost of Canadians.

Don Davies, Vancouver Kingsway

NDP
“The Liberal plan to lower gas prices did not work. Gas was $1.69 a litre when they cut the tax, and now it is $1.81. The federal government should follow the Manitoba NDP's example and bring in measures that actually help people.”
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Mr. Speaker, I am so glad my friend gave me a chance to talk about the fantastic job that Premier Wab Kinew is doing in Manitoba. I was in Manitoba just last week, in the provincial legislature. I was attending the Canadian Labour Congress convention. The types of policies and measures that the Kinew government is bringing in, as a New Democrat government in Manitoba, would be very instructive for this government to follow, if it could. I am very proud of that government. I noticed my friend did not address the main thrust of my argument, which is that the Liberals brought in a measure on April 20 that they said would lower gas prices for Canadians. They took 10¢ off the price of a litre of gas in this country, telling Canadians that they would pay less at the pump. It was $1.69 a litre on April 20, and it is $1.81 today. It did not work. That is math, and my honourable colleague would do well to focus on the math. The New Democrats are calling for measures that will actually help consumers, not hurt them.

Don Davies, Vancouver Kingsway

NDP
“The Liberals failed to stop oil companies from raising gas prices to pocket tax cuts. The government should cap gas prices during crises. It should also tax the huge profits of oil and gas companies and use that money to lower the cost of living for Canadians.”
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Mr. Speaker, New Democrats said at the time that the Liberal government had proposed this measure without any kind of cap or measure to prevent oil companies from taking a portion of that 10¢ and just hiking their price. The Liberals did nothing. Of course it had a predictable unfortunate result. New Democrats have been calling for real measures that would actually help Canadians at the pump. Bringing in a cap on prices at the pump in a time of crisis would actually help consumers. Bringing in a windfall profits tax on oil and gas companies, which are making $90 billion this year and are not suffering, and using that money to help Canadians by lowering their cost of living in a variety of ways would help. While I am at it, I will just conclude by saying to my hon. colleague, who talked about previous governments, that he would do well to study the government of C.D. Howe, a Liberal government during World War II that did bring in measures to stop corporations from making obscene profits by profiting off war and to protect consumers. He should take a look and read—

Don Davies, Vancouver Kingsway

NDP
“We should put an extra tax on big oil and gas profits. These companies made sixty billion dollars unexpectedly because of world events, not their own work. We must use this to give regular people financial relief.”
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Mr. Speaker, I agree with my hon. colleague that there will be corporate taxes generated on the additional corporate profits that are made. However, when we are talking about a windfall like this, an extra $60 billion of unanticipated revenue, a case can be made that an excess profits tax is appropriate, especially when that profit was not made because of extra investment by the oil and gas industry but because of geopolitical instability that has caused a spike in world prices. What we do agree on is that we need to give consumers relief in this country.

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