Building Canada Strong Act

Bill C-39, Building Canada Strong Act · Second reading · now at committee in the House Where it stands

What Bill C-39 would do

The bill would set one-year deadlines for impact assessments of major energy projects, including pipelines, power lines, and offshore renewables, once required information is submitted. It would also allow the federal government to designate trade corridors, adjust port governance and rail switching rules, and let electronic documents replace paper records for trade. In addition, the bill would introduce new collective bargaining rules and timelines under the Canada Labour Code, along with changes to environmental reviews and fisheries offsetting fees.

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Alexis Deschênes, Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj

Bloc Québécois
“I oppose this bill because it lowers environmental standards. In certain areas, it ignores about 20 laws and rules, letting projects destroy fish habitats without normal permits. I want the member to explain how that protects the environment.”
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Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for his contribution to this debate. I am having a hard time reconciling what my colleague and his Prime Minister are saying, namely that Bill C-39 does not lower standards. That seems completely wrong to me. Bill C-39 will make it possible to designate areas of national interest, and within those areas, about a dozen laws and seven regulations will not apply. This will allow for projects that destroy fish habitats without having to seek authorization under the Fisheries Act. How can my colleague say that we are upholding environmental standards when, for all projects in regions of national interest, we are going to set aside some 20 laws and get the required authorizations even if it means destroying the environment?

Alexis Deschênes, Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj

Bloc Québécois
“Why does the member support moving forward with projects that could wipe out species at risk just because they are called national-interest projects?”
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Mr. Speaker, I have a specific question for my colleague. Why does he agree that a project in an area deemed of national interest can move forward, even if it is contributing to the disappearance of a species at risk?

Alexis Deschênes, Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj

Bloc Québécois
“The member said environmental reviews are only used to delay projects. I want him to explain that. Does he really believe these reviews are not meant to study harm and stop bad projects, but just to slow things down?”
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Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for his speech and his contribution. In his speech he said that the environmental assessments were used to hold up projects. I find that fascinating and I would like him to elaborate on that. Is that what he really thinks? Does he think that environmental assessment processes were put in place to calculate the environmental impact of projects such as pipelines, not with the aim of getting answers and trying to ensure that projects are improved or that bad projects are blocked, but with the aim of slowing down projects? Is that really what he thinks?

Alexis Deschênes, Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj

Bloc Québécois
“I want the member to define what a region of national interest is. Under this bill, projects in these regions will not have to follow about 20 different laws.”
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Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague for her contribution. I have a very simple question for her: What is a region of national interest? Can she define it? That is one of the major changes that Bill C‑39 makes. When a region is determined to be of national interest, all projects in that area will be exempt from complying with 20 or so laws and obtaining authorizations. What is a region of national interest?

Jean-Denis Garon, Mirabel

Bloc Québécois
“I oppose this bill. It lets the government approve projects before environmental reviews are finished. Building projects like pipelines before we check them puts health, safety, and the environment at risk.”
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Madam Speaker, we can understand the need to sometimes conduct multiple simultaneous reviews to speed up projects, as long as the reviews are being done. However, that is not what we are seeing with this bill. Instead, the government can pre-approve a project, and the project can move forward while the reviews are being carried out, which means that a pipeline can be built even though the reviews have not been completed. That is crazy. How can the government tell us that it is important for reviews to be done more efficiently, while at the same time pre-approving projects that will cause significant harm to health, human safety and the environment, and allowing the project to go ahead without a review?

Alexis Deschênes, Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj

Bloc Québécois
“I oppose this bill. It lets cabinet name whole regions where projects can ignore environmental laws. This will let companies destroy fish habitats and harm animals at risk.”
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Madam Speaker, as fall sets in here in the House of Commons, one bill is set to authorize the destruction of the environment in Quebec and Canada, at the whim of 28 people, namely, the Carney government’s cabinet. Bill C-39 does a lot of things, but I will focus on what I think is the most dangerous one: From now on, authorization will be given to destroy the environment not only for projects of national interest, but also for entire regions, regions of national interest. Some might say that I am exaggerating, but I am not. I will give some examples of what Bill C‑39 will do. Let us say that the government wants to launch a nickel mining project, a project that will destroy fish habitat. Destroying fish habitat is prohibited under section 35 of the Fisheries Act. However, if the government decides that the nickel mining project is in a region of national interest, there will be no problem, and the nickel mining project can proceed. Authorization under section 35 of the Fisheries Act will no longer be required. That is what Bill C‑39 proposes. I will give another example. Let us say that there is a proposal to launch an electricity transmission line project. The problem is that the line will jeopardize species that are already at risk. Take, for example, the Gaspé caribou, the warbler, the red knot, the lark and the plover. All of these species are currently on the list of species at risk set out in the Species at Risk Act. Well, if the electricity transmission line is located in a region of national interest, as determined by the 28 members of the Carney government’s cabinet, then there is no problem. Normally, a proponent would not be permitted to move forward with such a project under the Species at Risk Act—

Alexis Deschênes, Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj

Bloc Québécois
“I am voting against this bill. It lets 28 cabinet ministers pick regions where companies can ignore environmental laws that protect at-risk animals, birds, and water.”
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Madam Speaker, thank you for calling me to order. You were quite right to do so. If the current government decides that this electricity transmission line project is located in a region of national interest, then itcan go ahead under Bill C-39, even if the project will jeopardize a species at risk or lead to that species’ extinction and would have normally been prohibited. Let us look at another example. Let us say that someone wants to build a liquefied gas terminal, but the construction plans involve dumping waste into the ocean. Normally, that would be prohibited under the Canadian Environmental Protection Act, part of which prohibits the disposal of certain substances at sea. However, if the government of the day decides that this liquefied gas terminal is located in a region of national interest, then there is no problem. The proponent would not need to get any authorization and would be exempt from these environmental protection laws. I have one last example to illustrate my point. Let us consider a pipeline project. Unfortunately, the construction of the pipeline would release substances that are harmful to migratory birds. Normally, this is prohibited under the Migratory Birds Convention Act, 1994. That act prohibits the release of substances harmful to migratory birds, but if the pipeline is in a region of national interest, as defined by the current government, there will be no problem. Before, there were projects of national interest, and now regions of national interest have been added. Anything inside these regions will be exempt from obtaining authorizations under the Migratory Birds Convention Act. That is a radical departure. That is why I am saying today that Bill C-39 seeks to authorize the destruction of the environment in Quebec and Canada, at cabinet’s discretion. The next question is about what constitutes a region of national interest. I have read Bill C-39, and I saw that clause 96(2) defines a region of national interest as “a region named in Schedule 3”. I found Schedule 3. It exists, but there is nothing about that in it. There is nothing in Schedule 3. There is just the heading “Regions of National Interest”. The regions have not been identified yet because the government, meaning cabinet, will decide later which regions are of national interest. Twenty-eight people will decide that in Canada, and especially in Quebec in my case, there are sectors where people will be able to do all the things I just criticized. Some people will tell me that they have to base it on something. That is sort of true, because there are some factors in the bill. The government’s ability to allow itself flexibility and discretion on a scale bigger than this chamber is admirable. The bill says that to establish whether a region is a region of national interest, the government may consider any factor it deems relevant. I want to emphasize the word “may”. It is not even required to do that. That is a loophole as big as the Earth. Still, the government is kind enough to give us certain guidelines and include certain criteria in the bill, including the one I am going to talk about because it is unbelievably broad. It is the condition requiring the project to provide economic or other benefits. The discretion this government is getting, allowing it to authorize the destruction of the environment, is mind-boggling. It is mind-boggling and disturbing. What will happen when the government decides that a region is a region of national interest? I want to point out that it is not clear what criteria the government plans to use. I also look forward to hearing government members explain why their region should be a region of national interest. I want to come back to the fact that several laws no longer apply. I mentioned the Fisheries Act, the Migratory Birds Convention Act, 1994, and the Canada Transportation Act, for example. It used to be that an application for authorization was necessary to build a railway, but that will no longer be the case. I talked about the Canada Marine Act, which governs public ports and the St. Lawrence Seaway. It will no longer be necessary in regions of national interest. Part 7, Division 3 of the Canadian Environmental Protection Act, which deals with disposal at sea, is being set aside. The Species at Risk Act is being disregarded because development is the priority. The Impact Assessment Act and relevant regulations, like the migratory bird sanctuary regulations, the wildlife area regulations and the marine mammal regulations, are also being shoved aside. Clearly, these laws must have been completely useless. That is what Bill C‑39 does. We do not know what constitutes a region of national interest. What we do know is that, once a region is designated as being of national interest, all of those laws, and several others I have not mentioned, cease to apply. The bill effectively assumes that all necessary approvals and authorizations are already in place for projects located in such regions. I will conclude by saying that the irony is that 28 people will define what constitutes the national interest of Quebec and Canada, even though it will result in the destruction of the environment. I believe that Quebec’s national interest lies in ensuring that economic development does not come at the expense of the environment. We can grow our economy without compromising our habitats, fish habitats and endangered species. We can develop our economy while keeping future generations in mind. Unfortunately, Bill C-39 deviates from that. We are heading towards destructive economic development. That is why we will be voting against the bill.

Alexis Deschênes, Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj

Bloc Québécois
“This bill gives cabinet the power to approve projects based on whatever it wants. The environmental studies will not matter. Projects in Chaleur Bay could move ahead without protecting fish habitats, and I want to protect the fishers in my riding.”
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Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague, who represents a riding next to mine, for his well-researched question. Environmental assessments will have to be done beforehand, but it is up to cabinet to designate a region as being of national interest. The legislation says it may do so based on whatever factors it considers useful or relevant. A token assessment will be done beforehand, but ultimately, cabinet will act as it sees fit in determining what is in the national interest and what a region of national interest is. What is likely to happen is that projects, perhaps situated between our two ridings in our magnificent Chaleur Bay, could move forward with no consideration of the impact on fish habitat. As everyone knows, industrial development projects are in the works for Belledune. There are fishers in my riding, and I want to protect them.

Alexis Deschênes, Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj

Bloc Québécois
“This bill gives the government too much power. It lets ministers decide what counts as the national interest, but they have never even defined what that means. Now they want to expand that power from single projects to entire regions.”
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Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague for that excellent question. I have no comment. I am simply overwhelmed by the sheer magnitude of this discretionary power. Section 4.1 of Bill C-5 states that cabinet will, by order, define what is in the national interest. Those 28 cabinet ministers were going to tell us that. However, that order was never issued. Before even defining what the national interest is, the government is going even further by telling us, in Bill C-39, that it used to be projects of national interest, but now it will be regions of national interest.

Jean-Denis Garon, Mirabel

Bloc Québécois
“This bill lets the government choose projects that cause too much pollution and exempt them from environmental laws. The Prime Minister controls everything himself, and his cabinet will not stop him. He will just approve projects that help private interests.”
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Madam Speaker, my colleague’s speech made it clear what is happening. The government is going to select a project. Evidently, the project will create a lot of pollution, exceeding the levels set out in environmental laws. The government will then decide to designate a region around it to exempt that project from environmental laws. I think my colleague is being very kind to the government. I think he is being magnanimous toward the government. He is talking about a 28‑person cabinet. Since the arrival of the new Prime Minister, we have seen that this government is a one-man show. We are talking about 28 ministers whom the Prime Minister can fire at will. Does my colleague really think that 28 ministers will be consulted, or does he think that, at the end of the day, it will be the private interests that have a voice in the Prime Minister’s Office that will ultimately get projects approved?

Alexis Deschênes, Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj

Bloc Québécois
“This bill lets the Prime Minister pick which regions and projects get special, easier rules. Everyone else would still have to go through the normal approval process, which is unfair.”
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Madam Speaker, I believe my colleague has a lot of political experience, and his comment is informed by his observations of what is going on. The Prime Minister will define what is in the national interest and what constitutes a region of national interest. Those that gain his favour, if I may put it that way, will enjoy a special legislative regime that requires relatively few approvals. Meanwhile—and this is something the Conservatives do not talk about much—all other individuals and businesses in Canada will have to continue to undergo assessments that, in my opinion, are justified, though not without room for improvement.

Alexis Deschênes, Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj

Bloc Québécois
“A past Conservative prime minister signed an agreement to protect nature. This bill lets projects go ahead even if they put at-risk animals and plants in danger. I want to know what my colleague thinks about that.”
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Madam Speaker, I would like to take a brief step back and remind my colleague that Conservative prime minister Brian Mulroney, who was considered one of the most pro-environment prime ministers, signed the Convention on Biological Diversity on Canada’s behalf. What does my colleague think of Bill C‑39, which will allow projects located in regions of national interest to move forward even if they put species at risk?

Sébastien Lemire, Abitibi—Témiscamingue

Bloc Québécois
“I oppose this bill. It lets the government bypass laws to rush project approvals, which hurts the environment and weakens workers' rights. We should follow proper rules and consult communities, not hand special powers to foreign ships or government friends.”
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Madam Speaker, with this bill, this government is once again trying to expedite projects by circumventing many laws passed by the House of Commons. I think that is the wrong approach. First, let us be clear on the principle: All of my colleagues who are here would like projects to move forward more quickly. We all agree with the one project, one assessment principle, but that assessment must be done right. It must respect the will of the provinces and Quebec, particularly when it comes to the environment. We must also not forget the principle of social licence. That is what makes the difference between a successful project and one that will face a lot of opposition. I come from a mining region. For over 100 years, we have seen mining in Abitibi—Témiscamingue change and evolve. At one time, the environmental laws were not what they are today. That is why there are over 90 abandoned mines in my region. In Quebec, there are over 335 abandoned mines, and it will cost over $1.35 billion to clean them up. That is just one example among many that shows the importance of complying with strict environmental laws. If we do not, then we will just be creating new problems that will cost even more money a few years down the road. The first nations are saying that we need to plan projects with the next seven generations in mind. We will have to deal with the environmental impacts eventually, even if we do not want to think about them today. Another example of a project that went ahead too quickly is the Malartic mine. This project, which now has some degree of social licence after more than 20 years of existence, did not get off to a very good start in the early 2000s. This mine, the largest open-pit mine in Canada, displaced homes before the mining company even had a permit to operate. What would have happened if the operating permit had been refused? This is exactly the kind of issue that could arise today as a result of Bill C-39, because the government can approve a project before its environmental assessment has been completed. It is for that very reason that we must hold consultations and comply with the law. People are counting on us to do a job: to protect our environment, our living environments and our quality of life. Basically, the key question is this: What is the national interest? If I ask the government that question, I will get an answer that focuses on economic development and the development of energy projects, mainly involving oil and gas. If I ask my Conservative opposition colleagues the same question, I will likely get the same answer. Meanwhile, an environmentalist party could decide that the fight against climate change is in the national interest and use Bill C-39 to force the closure of a pipeline for the sake of national interest. In short, the national interest is a variable and, from what the Prime Minister is proposing here, it seems to boil down to oil, gas and nuclear interests, which are at the heart of his policy and his personal economic interests related to Brookfield. The government is forgetting that our planet is in bad shape and that what it is proposing here is just going to lead us further down that path. That is dangerous. This government is using the tariff crisis with the United States as an excuse to push projects through more quickly at the discretion of the Privy Council, and that creates a major problem for democracy. The Liberals pride themselves on being the defenders of the charter. They oppose Quebec’s laws because Quebec is using the notwithstanding clause to sidestep certain legal challenges. However, these same Liberals are now in the process of voting for a notwithstanding clause for all laws passed by the House of Commons. In fact, with Bill C‑39, the government will have the power to override, circumvent or suspend the laws passed right here. What the Liberals are doing is exactly what they are speaking out against and challenging at the Supreme Court. That is without taking into account the fact that this government is creating two different systems. One system for those who are chosen by the government, which will override various laws because these people have the right connections—a buddy is a buddy, as they say—and a system for everyone else, who will have to comply with all the laws. Depending on its mining regime, a mine in Abitibi-Témiscamingue will end up with a regime that could damage its social acceptability among the public and turn even more people against it, if it is recognized to be in the national interests. On the other hand, it is important to complete the proper steps, engage in consultations and ensure that public concerns are addressed, despite the paperwork involved. That, however, is what should be encouraged. Returning to Malartic, the Université du Québec en Abitibi-Témiscamingue has worked with the mining industry and the public to improve the coexistence guide. Thanks to that experience and work done by researchers, best practices in consulting and in working with communities were developed in Abitibi-Témiscamingue and are now proving their worth. Mine development is much more orderly and socially acceptable. I would like to point out that, if laws unsuited to modern realities are the problem, a much more acceptable solution exists: improve the laws. All parliamentarians are going to work on changing and improving these laws. Circumventing them is not the way to move things forward. However, personally, as the transportation, infrastructure and communities critic, I would say that there are some positive aspects. Sometimes we have to be constructive. Digital trade modernization is one example, since some documents are still required on paper. Canada drew on a model law on electronic transferrable records in drafting Bill C‑39. This will facilitate international trade while bringing us into the 21st century. Today, I met with the St. Lawrence Shipowners. They emphasized that Quebec is at the forefront of marine transportation development. The industry requires significant investment, which should be seen as a catalyst for development. Quebec has a strategy to develop its marine industry, and a sense of coherence and a vision have emerged around the St. Lawrence River as a result. The marine aspects raised in the bill are interesting. We must acknowledge that there is a certain vision. However, unlike Quebec, Canada is still taking a piecemeal approach. This is yet another example of how Canada could draw inspiration from Quebec. It is possible for the federal government to provide better funding for Quebec’s strategy and to add funds to ensure that not only the major ports, but also our medium-sized ports and regional ports can develop, renovate their infrastructure and continue to meet the needs of the various stakeholders working on the river. As we know, many of them are at the end of their service life. However, amending the Coasting Trade Act is a problem with this bill. It is thanks to this act that Quebec has high-quality local marine transportation. We need only look at Australia, where local transportation is virtually non-existent because of the lack of a coasting trade act. Instead of ensuring that Transport Canada addresses its urgent needs with shipowners, it is recommending that foreign-flagged vessels be given access to the river. Furthermore, the notion of an emergency situation, a matter of utmost importance, like the concept of national interest, is left undefined, potentially opening the door to interpretations that favour foreign ships over our domestic carriers. Let us have the courage to support our local marine industry, instead of opening the door to foreign players. Is that not precisely why the Liberals keep telling us we need to support local businesses? I would be remiss if I did not talk about another key issue in this bill, specifically the attack on workers. The balance of power is under direct attack because Bill C‑39 allows employers to sit back and do nothing while waiting for the government to act, or rather for the Canada Industrial Relations Board, which is not accountable to the House of Commons for its decisions, to act. This could be called a denial of democracy, not to mention that the new criteria relating to the national interest, such as severe social disruption, are designed to encourage a return to work. A strike is a social disruption. It is workers making their voices heard. They are people just like us who are simply asking for better pay and better working conditions. In the last labour dispute in which the government intervened, the employer wasted time negotiating at every opportunity while waiting for the government to force workers back to work, all without special legislation. Once again, this is a roundabout way for the government to bypass parliamentarians. This bill is an attack on workers. We see the government giving itself an override provision to avoid labour disputes and to circumvent, override, or suspend laws. There is a lot of talk about the U.S. President signing executive orders, but this administration is following the same path. To get around a law, all it will take is a big black Sharpie and a signature. That, in my view, is what Bill C-39 is all about. That is what this government is proposing: to use underhanded tactics to push through more oil and gas projects, more nuclear projects, including a nuclear waste site located less than one kilometre from the Ottawa River, 200 kilometres from here. All of this is to maintain the way our resources are exploited. In fact, Canada currently chooses to sell its natural resources to the highest bidder without maximizing the significant returns. We are—

Jean-Denis Garon, Mirabel

Bloc Québécois
“I want to know if it is against our rules to call another member's words an exaggeration. I ask the Speaker to decide if saying that is impolite.”
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I wonder whether it is appropriate, from a parliamentary point of view and in the light of the Standing Orders, to describe a colleague’s analysis of a bill as an exaggeration. I wonder whether such remarks do not go beyond what should be considered acceptable standards of civility here in the House.

Sébastien Lemire, Abitibi—Témiscamingue

Bloc Québécois
“I oppose this bill. It gives too much power to the Prime Minister and his allies. It also hurts Quebec by supporting oil, gas, and nuclear energy instead of our clean hydroelectricity.”
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Madam Speaker, do not worry, I stand by what I said. I am very worried when I see Bill C‑39. It came after Bill C‑5 and Bill C‑15. It is now Bill C‑39’s turn. What is left of our democracy? I am very concerned. At the end of the day, who is the Privy Council? They are probably buddies of the Prime Minister or his privy councillors. Take Michael Sabia, for example. Michael Sabia knows all the secrets of Hydro-Québec and the Caisse de dépôt. He is now working for Canadian interests. What about Quebec’s interests? I am very concerned about this agreement and the impact it could have. Honestly, I am very wary of that, because Quebec’s national interest has been based on its hydroelectricity for decades. We have the cleanest energy in the world. It is a source of great pride, but it could be threatened because Canada is developing oil, gas and nuclear energy. That is one of my main concerns.

Jean-Denis Garon, Mirabel

Bloc Québécois
“This bill would let the government sell off our airports to private companies, including the Mirabel airport. The federal government took that land unfairly in the past. The airport must stay public to help the local community and the economy. I want to know if my colleague shares my concern.”
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Madam Speaker, I am concerned because under Bill C-39, the government is getting set to privatize our airports. That includes the Mirabel airport. The Mirabel airport was built on land that was expropriated, desecrated and stolen. That came as a result of crimes committed by the federal government, as recognized in a motion recently adopted by the House. This asset should serve the community, remain public and be a tool for economic development. I wonder if my colleague shares my concerns, particularly with regard to the Mirabel airport.

Sébastien Lemire, Abitibi—Témiscamingue

Bloc Québécois
“The government is rushing big projects like high-speed rail without listening to local communities. This bill will cut through farmland and split towns apart, just like what happened in Mirabel. We do not even know what these projects will cost.”
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Madam Speaker, allow me to express my sincere thoughts for the people of Mirabel, whom I met last week. There was a public meeting attended by my hon. colleague, the member for Mirabel. At that meeting, there were people who were concerned. They were concerned about a government that wants to rush through projects of national interest, such as a high-speed rail line, like the Alto project, for which there is no social acceptability, but which the government intends to impose through legislation that would sacrifice farmland by cutting it in half and split communities in two. The people of Mirabel know the drill, and what happened has, quite simply, destroyed a once great community spirit. The scars are still fresh. We need to talk to the people of Mirabel. However, the situation that Mirabel experienced will repeat itself in Berthier—Maskinongé and in Rigaud, where we were just two weeks ago to hear the concerns of all stakeholders. Members will recall that no realistic cost estimate is available at this time for these projects. Is that what the national interest is all about, recklessly throwing our money out the window? I am very concerned.

Sébastien Lemire, Abitibi—Témiscamingue

Bloc Québécois
“I oppose this bill. It lets federal projects ignore Quebec's environmental laws and skips consulting First Nations. The government is doing this to build nuclear power and store nuclear waste near the drinking water for most people in Quebec.”
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Madam Speaker, my colleague from Madawaska—Restigouche should know that I will keep going a bit too far until our voices are heard outside the House because Quebeckers’ fundamental rights, the right to live in a healthy environment, are on the line. It seems that a project of national interest is grounds for violating laws of interest to Quebec, the Bureau d’audiences publiques sur l’environnement et les lois environnementales, and social acceptability laws. I will give an example. I campaigned alongside the Kebaowek community to protect their ancestral lands, because they had a right to be consulted. The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission had failed to do so. I am very proud to have been able to help secure the passage of an amendment and to have helped bring about change in this regard, and I thank the Conservatives for agreeing to remove the Indian Act from Bill C-5. However, the Liberals came back with Bill C-15, and Bill C-39. Now, they no longer see any point in consulting first nations. They are disregarding that and they do not care. That sets a dangerous precedent. All of this is to introduce nuclear power and store its waste near drinking water sources, near 80% of Quebec’s population. If that is the case, then yes, I will keep going a bit too far.

Patrick Bonin, Repentigny

Bloc Québécois
“I oppose this bill. It lets the government ignore environmental laws and public consultations to rush oil and gas projects. It also lets ministers stop workers from striking. We should build green energy while still following the law.”
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Madam Speaker, we are once again in the House to talk about a bill that builds on an existing bill. First, there was Bill C‑5, which was unprecedented in terms of the environment. It trampled 12 laws and seven regulations and was passed here in the House, I repeat, with the support of my Conservative colleagues, because they obviously saw their national interest as being the interests of oil companies. That is exactly what we are seeing again today. There is nothing national about this bill. It is a bill that aims to fast-track this government’s oil and gas policy agenda, using the excuse that the legislative framework that has been built over decades needs to be improved. It took decades to develop a legislative framework that protects the environment and the health of our communities. Now the government is telling us that we need to set it aside because we need to act quickly, because that is in our national interest. One of the arguments being put forward by the Liberals is that we need to develop renewable energy. In their view, developing renewable energy means setting aside regulatory frameworks. We fully support efforts to accelerate the development of renewable energy. Quebec is already doing just that, while also complying with laws and regulations. Is there room to improve certain aspects of environmental assessments for renewable energy projects? Absolutely. Should that be done by disregarding laws and regulations? No, and that is not how we do things in Quebec. Should it be done by ignoring public consultations? No, and and that is not how we do things in Quebec. Should it be done without proper environmental assessments? No, yet that is what the government is proposing. It is proposing to override the views of local communities, sideline public consultations, weaken environmental assessments and set aside laws under the guise of national interest. We are entirely in favour of developing Quebec in a responsible manner, but the government is seeking to grant itself powers that are virtually unprecedented in scope. Bill C-39 is being put forward under the guise of national interest, and it goes even further. This bill allows laws and regulations to be suspended indefinitely. That means forever, if the government so wishes. The Liberals are not only going to such extremes in their oil and gas mania, but they also want to designate so-called “regions of national interest”. Who decides which regions are of national interest, and on whose behalf? It is this government, led by the Prime Minister, who, as we know all too well, is in cahoots with the oil and gas companies. The proof is that the Liberals have just approved a massive oil sands pipeline project with a capacity of one million barrels per day, under the pretext that it is in the national interest. They tell us that they followed the law, of course, and that it is clear they considered the relevant criteria. Bill C-39 follows the same logic: They set criteria for themselves that they are not required to follow. They may even decide that they will consider any factor of interest to be in the national interest, which means that, if it is of interest to them, it is in the national interest, and they can throw all the laws and regulations out the window. This is extremely concerning. When we talk about a pipeline, such as the one that was announced, the Liberals tell us that it will help fight the climate crisis. Environment Canada itself estimates that this oil sands pipeline that will produce one million barrels a day will increase greenhouse gas emissions by 27.7 million tonnes in Canada just to produce the oil that will flow through the pipeline. Those 27.7 million tonnes of greenhouse gases account for more than one-third of Quebec’s emissions. How can a government claim that increasing emissions on this scale—from Canada’s most polluting sector, oil sands production—is consistent with the fight against the climate crisis? Clearly, it is not. We can already see that all the criteria used by the government are phony. There is no environmental protection in this bill, despite the government’s claims that environmental laws will be complied with. If we take a closer look, every single environmental group in Canada has spoken out against this bill. They say that it is bulldozing nature, that it is a historic setback and that it is unprecedented in terms of environmental backsliding. All the environmental rights groups and environmental lawyers are saying that this bill is a serious setback for the environment. How can the government grant itself extraordinary powers to set aside 12 laws and seven regulations, including a number of environmental laws, and claim that this will protect the environment? The government may end up respecting environmental laws, but that is certainly not what it intends to do. Why does the government need this tool that the Prime Minister can use as he sees fit? It is because the government wants to get around environmental laws. Otherwise, it would not be doing that. That much is clear. These “regions of national interest” that appear in Bill C-39 and that we have been talking about are entire regions where projects such as pipelines, for example, would be pre-approved even before an environmental assessment has taken place. Take the project of national interest involving the much-vaunted one-million-barrels-a-day pipeline, for example. Under this bill, the government would effectively pre-approve the project. The company would be able to start building its pipeline even before the project has been assessed. This could mean that, if a somewhat credible assessment were to later conclude that it is not a worthwhile project, the company may have already started work, building its pipeline and investing money. In this example, the company is actually the government. The government is prepared to invest $20 billion in federal funding, as part of a total public investment of $43 billion, in a project that it will champion for lack of private sector investment. Does anyone think the government will decide, after the project assessment, not to go ahead? That is not going to happen. If it is a private company and the government pre-approves a project and allows it to proceed with construction, the company will sue the government, arguing that it cannot stop the work. Clearly, this is literally about bulldozing their way to approving projects. When it comes to pre-approved projects, the government says it may conduct an environmental assessment. That may be the case, but what it is actually doing is dismantling the Impact Assessment Agency of Canada. The agency that specializes in project assessments is being dismantled. It will no longer even be responsible for assessing pipeline projects. That responsibility will fall to the Canadian Energy Regulator, which is widely recognized as a haven for oil and gas industry lobbyists. It is a machine for approving pipeline, gas, and oil projects. I do not think the board has ever rejected an oil project in its entire history. This is part of a pattern of sidestepping laws, rushing through environmental assessments and pretending they are environmental assessments when in fact they are literally carried out by those who want these projects to move forward and have a vested interest in their development. Bill C-39 not only makes no sense from an environmental standpoint, in terms of the logic of environmental assessments, or with regard to respect for communities, but it goes even further because, within its 250 pages, it also targets workers. It was not enough to try to scrap environmental protections. Now they say they are going to scrap the right to strike as well. That means the minister will have the right to decide whether workers can go on strike or not. The minister will decide, based on his own judgment, whether a strike is in the national interest. If this is not one of the biggest setbacks in the history of workers’ rights, I do not know what is. According to the Fédération des travailleurs et des travailleuses du Québec, this is a serious setback, a serious violation of workers’ rights. We are not here to debate whether developing pipelines makes sense. We already know it does not. We are here to debate respect for democracy and respect for a regulatory and legislative framework that took decades to build and that this government is literally going to scrap in a few months. The troubling part is that we are dealing with a government acting in authoritarian ways, with power centred in the Prime Minister’s Office. It claims to want to fight against Donald Trump, and yet, to do so, it is engaging in Trumpism and developing Canada’s oil and gas interests, the majority of which are held by Americans. How does that help fight Mr. Trump? It does not help at all. What interests us in Quebec is to develop the strengths that we already possess and can build on. It is called renewable energy. It is called public transit. It is called the electrification of transportation. We can fast-track these projects, obey the law and respect people without trashing our citizens, our health and our environment for oil companies.

Patrick Bonin, Repentigny

Bloc Québécois
“I oppose this bill. We do not need it to build clean energy, because Quebec is already doing that. This bill just speeds up oil and gas pipelines to help Alberta. It will cost billions of public dollars and make climate change worse.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, with all due respect to my colleague, that is ridiculous. It is ridiculous to say that we need to pass Bill C‑39, which is a giant setback for the environment, workers’ rights and democracy, in order to develop renewable energy projects. We are already doing that. Projects like the one in Churchill Falls are already under way in Quebec. We have been doing that for decades. We do not need superpowers. What the Liberals want to do with Bill C‑39 is essentially develop oil and gas companies and pipelines, undermine the fight against climate change and fast-track these projects. Who are they trying to please? They want to please Alberta using Quebeckers’ money. We are talking about billions of dollars to develop projects that will accomplish nothing. In fact, we are going to pay for them three times over: first, for the pipeline, which will cost $43 billion, second, for the carbon capture and storage project, which will cost $10 billion in public funds, and third, for all the costs associated with the climate impacts we are already experiencing, like droughts, heat waves and floods, not to mention the issues of rising grocery prices—

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