Business of Supply

An opposition day motion calling on the government to cancel a roughly $12-million Canada Revenue Agency security contract awarded to a U.S.-owned company and instead award it to the Commissionaires, a Canadian non-profit that employs veterans, invoking the Prime Minister’s pledge that federal spending would favour Canadian suppliers by default. Conservatives said the decision contradicted the buy-Canadian commitment and noted the Liberal government had ended the Commissionaires’ right of first refusal on security contracts, a rule in place since 1945 that supported thousands of veteran jobs. Liberals replied that the contract was awarded through an open competition for best overall value, that under the government’s buy-Canadian policy a company counts as Canadian if it has substantial operations and jobs in Canada regardless of ownership, and that most guards hired under the contract were former commissionaires or veterans. Bloc Québécois members focused on protecting veterans’ employment, asking the government to renew the Commissionaires’ right of first refusal before it expires on March 31 or require contractors to hire veterans, and said the change would cut pay for affected guards.Written by AI from the debate. Updated .

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51 statements

Michael Barrett, Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes

Conservative
“Past governments and this current government have all failed our veterans. The government has some good news for veterans, but wait times are still too long, and it fails to meet its own service standards. I want all of us to commit to doing better for veterans today.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, as a legislator today, who has committed himself to serving veterans and to serving all Canadians, I can tell members that what I am hearing from veterans is that they are not interested in focusing exclusively on the rearview mirror. If we want to compare outrages on where the government has fallen down over the last 11 years, I think it is a damning indictment of the government and our service to veterans. If we want to compare the government before that, I think it is a damning indictment of how this place has served our veterans, and the government before that as well. I think that we can commit ourselves today to doing better for veterans. That is what I am asking for. Is there some good news for veterans that the government has announced? Sure, there is. Is there more to do? Do we need to get wait times down? Do we need the government to meet even just its own service delivery standards, which are far too long? Absolutely, we do. Let us commit collectively to doing better today.

Martin Champoux, Drummond

Bloc Québécois
“The government gave a contract to an American company instead of a Canadian one. This breaks our promise to buy local, and it insults our veterans during Remembrance Week. I want to hear my colleague's thoughts on this.”
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Madam Speaker, I congratulate my Conservative colleague on his speech. I find today’s motion particularly compelling for a number of reasons. First, the national poppy campaign is in full swing. Nearly every member of the House is proudly wearing a poppy in remembrance of those who fought, and those who gave their lives, for our freedom and our values. Against that backdrop, we are confronted with a situation that, in my view, is nothing short of an insult to our veterans, whom we have pledged to honour and whom we are sincerely honouring, I would hope, during this special week. Can my colleague tell us a bit more about the fact that, during the last election campaign, the parties generally agreed to implement a buy Canadian, buy local policy and to implement measures that promote buying from local companies and groups? What message does it send to veterans that they were passed over in favour of an American company with ties to ICE and a questionable track record? I would like to hear my colleague’s comments about the sensitivity that should have been shown to this group of individuals whom we are honouring during this special week.

Michael Barrett, Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes

Conservative
“I want the government to change its mind and give this contract to a Canadian company. The Prime Minister promised to buy Canadian and support our troops. He should keep his word.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, we can see quite plainly that this decision does not align with what are plainly Canadian values. It is not aligned with what Canadians expressed in the last election. Most importantly, I think the motion and the discussion today measure the Prime Minister’s words against his actions. We want him to make good on what Canadians expect him to do. They expect him to do it because he said he was going to. We want the government to buy Canadian. We want it to honour our veterans. I think that this choice, frankly, is diametrically opposed to what Canadians want. It is antithetical to what the government says it believes and what it will do. We want to create opportunity for Canadian firms, but we also need to send a message. What are Canadian values? What do we believe? Who are we going to stand up for? If we are not standing up for Canadian businesses and if we are not standing up for the men and women of the Canadian Armed Forces, what are we doing here? There is an opportunity for the government to do the right thing. The Liberals can reverse the decision and award this contract to a Canadian firm because it is the right thing to do and it is what they said they were going to do.

Fraser Tolmie, Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan

Conservative

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“I support this motion. For 80 years, Canada gave guard jobs at federal buildings to the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires, which employs thousands of veterans. The government ended that policy without talking to them, and it gave a tax agency security contract to an American company instead of Canadian veterans just to save $80,000. I want the government to support Canadian veterans, follow its own policy to buy Canadian, and reverse that security contract decision.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, from my perspective, to start off, I would like to acknowledge the generational remembrance that we have. Not too many people can see this, but in the gallery we have some young girls who are wearing poppies right now and they are sitting with their family of many generations. That is heartwarming. I will not name them because I do not know them, but I just want to thank them for wearing a poppy and for supporting our troops, and that is what we are here to talk about. I am proud to rise in support of this motion. In a few days, we will gather at cenotaphs in every town in this country. In Moose Jaw, in Lanigan, in Watrous and in Outlook, people will stand in the cold to keep two minutes of silence. Remembrance is about a promise. We promise those who serve that we will not forget them and that we will keep faith with them. In 1945, Canada made a simple commitment. When Ottawa needed its buildings guarded, it would call the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires first, because the corps hired the people who came home. That policy was created under Mackenzie King and kept by 12 prime ministers after him, Liberals and Conservatives alike. A Conservative government reaffirmed the policy in 2006 and widened it to include RCMP members. It took this Prime Minister to end it. This year, the Liberals ended the policy with a letter, but with no real explanation, no meaningful consultation and no replacement. We are talking about roughly $350 million a year and about 8,000 guards at federal sites. More than 3,000 of them are veterans. The government’s own briefing notes said it was engaging with stakeholders. The Commissionaires say they were never consulted. They have had to go to Federal Court just to be heard. The government says veterans are not working enough of the hours, but the government sets the wages on those contracts and the Commissionaires say that they have drifted toward minimum wage. The government sets the wages, then blames the court. If the target is broken, they should fix the target. The Commissionaires’ court filing says a former deputy minister proposed exactly that. Instead, the government scrapped the program and kept the excuse. This year, the government is breaking that promise. It is ending an 80-year commitment to give veterans a job when they come home, and it is handing their work to a lower bidder, even when its buy Canadian policy says otherwise. Then came the Canada Revenue Agency contract. When the Trump administration launched its trade war, the Prime Minister promised that whenever Ottawa spends, it would select Canadian suppliers by default. In April, he promised to build Canada strong with Canadian steel, Canadian aluminum, Canadian lumber and Canadian workers. Then in June, with the CRA security contract, nearly $12 million went to the Canadian subsidiary of an American multinational over a Canadian not-for-profit that is the country’s largest employer of veterans. The difference between bids was $80,000, less than 1%. To put that in perspective, according to the government’s own answer to an Order Paper question, the Prime Minister’s delegation spent $175,000 on in-flight catering during one 10-day trip to China, Qatar and Davos this January. The gap in the cost to veterans is less than half of that. An hon. member: Oh, oh! Fraser Tolmie: I know where you’re going with that. I will deal with it later. The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Alexandra Mendès): I am not going anywhere. Fraser Tolmie: Madam Speaker, this is not about one company. The question is what the government asked for, and keeping veterans on was not part of it. The government says that 12 veterans kept their jobs under this contract. Twelve is a number they found after the fact. Nothing in that contract required a single veteran to be hired. Canadian steel, Canadian aluminum, Canadian lumber, Canadian workers; apparently not Canadian veterans. A slogan is not a policy. Every time we have asked about this contract, the government has given the same answer. The Secretary of State told the House, “Politicians are not involved in these decisions.” It is hands off. However, this fall, the House has been debating Bill C-40, the government’s new defence procurement agency. Under that bill, the minister would be able to direct the agency’s procurement, and it would have to comply, as an associate minister would get direction over a $1-billion fund that can lend money and buy shares. The bill would give the government 17 ways to skip open competition. When it is $1-billion defence contracts, the government wants both hands on the wheel. When it is veterans’ jobs and its own buy Canadian policy, suddenly it is hands off. That tells us where its priorities are. Bill C-40 would rewrite how Canada buys for its military, and it does not contain a single target for veteran-owned businesses nor one credit for companies that hire veterans. The United States sets goals for veteran-owned businesses in federal funding contracting. The Canadian government already knows how to set procurement targets when it wants to. Veterans do not get one. In one year, the government ended the right of first refusal, let veterans lose the CRA contract over $80,000 and wrote a defence procurement with no place for veterans. That is not an accident. It is a pattern. I have sat on the veterans affairs committee since 2021. In that time, we have come back to debate veterans’ work transition over and again. Every one of those studies lands in the same place: Meaningful work after service is one of the biggest factors in veterans’ well-being. Therefore, what I cannot square is that at this very moment, our committee is studying how to get veterans into good jobs, but the government is ending the one federal procurement policy built to do exactly that, and there is no plan to replace it. Nothing says how many veterans would be hired, or where, or how anyone would know. When I was the mayor of Moose Jaw, we had a rule: If we cannot measure it, we cannot manage it. The government is scrapping the one veterans jobs program it could actually measure and is replacing it with nothing. Conservatives believe that a promise to a veteran is a promise we keep. The motion before us asks the government to do three simple things: First, respect veterans; second, follow its own buy Canadian policy; and third, have the Prime Minister reverse the CRA security contract. None of this is complicated. It is a question of whether the government means what it says. In a few days, at the cenotaph in Moose Jaw, the last post will sound, and we will fall silent. We will remember the people who kept the promise they made to this country. The least we can do is keep ours to them: a job when they come home and a government that means what it says. We want to thank the veterans of Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan who are serving at 15 Wing and at Dundurn, those across our country and those who serve alongside them, as well as their families. Veterans kept their promise to Canada. Conservatives will make sure Canada keeps its promise to them. I would like to recognize a lot of people within our community and in Parliament who are veterans. I would like to thank my colleague who is the critic for Veterans Affairs for his service, and a few other fellow members. This means a lot to us. That is why we brought the motion forward. It means a lot to Canadians. We are pleading with the Prime Minister to make the decision to change his mind on this and recognize that it is okay to humble himself and say that he was wrong.

Kevin Lamoureux, Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Liberal
“I want the member to clarify how many veterans will be affected. He misled the House earlier when he suggested 3,000 veterans would be affected or fired.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, I do not believe it was intentional, but I wonder if the member recognizes that he somewhat misled the House earlier when he implied that 3,000 veterans would be affected or fired. Could he provide clarification on the actual number of veterans, if he actually knows?

Fraser Tolmie, Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan

Conservative
“The government is cancelling a contract to support a company that helps Donald Trump's detention program. That is distasteful, and Canadians expect better.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague from across the aisle. I know he served in the military, and I respect his time in service. It is obviously something he is very passionate about and understands. The fact that the government is cancelling this contract to support a company that is supporting Trump’s ICE detention program is distasteful. Canadians want better and expect better from their government.

Bob Zimmer, Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies

Conservative
“The Prime Minister promised to buy Canadian and support Canadians. Yet the government gave a security contract to an American company instead of a Canadian one that hires veterans. I want the member to explain why they chose the American company.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, I think most Canadians have heard the debate today and they go back to the Prime Minister’s having made promises about buying Canadian and supporting Canadians. That is why most of us find it very strange that the CRA did not give a security contract to a top patriotic organization, arguably the most patriotic organization, in Canada, the Commissionaires, but to what Newsweek called a top patriotic company in the U.S. I will ask the member whether he thinks it is appropriate to give the contract to the most patriotic Canadian company, or to the most patriotic American company.

Fraser Tolmie, Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan

Conservative
“We need to support our veterans by giving them good jobs when they leave the military. Having meaningful work helps their mental health. It insults our veterans when they come home to fewer job opportunities in Canada.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, obviously I am pro-Canadian. We should be supporting our troops and our veterans. When they come home, they want meaningful employment. One of the things not being touched on here is that veterans who come home, when they leave the military, go through a bit of an identity crisis. Giving them meaningful employment is something that helps with their mental well-being. Therefore, it is a complete slap in the face to Canadian veterans when they come home and find fewer opportunities for employment in the workforce in Canada.

Rhéal Éloi Fortin, Rivière-du-Nord

Bloc Québécois
“I agree with the member about respecting veterans and our military. The government broke its promise to buy local, and I do not understand why. I want to know if any studies show that it is safe to hand over these big defence duties to an American private company.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, I want to begin by commending my colleague on his speech. On the issue of respect for our veterans and our armed forces, we are on the same page. I think it is important to acknowledge that today. On the issue of buying local, I cannot get over it. The government’s decision not to make good on the commitments made by the Prime Minister himself is quite troubling. I do not understand it. I still cannot make sense of it. That said, I have a serious question that is kind of underlying all of this. In his opinion, have any studies been conducted on safety issues? Has any study been conducted to determine whether or not it is safe to transfer such significant responsibilities, which affect all Canadians and Quebeckers, to a private agency under U.S. jurisdiction? I must admit that I am quite concerned about this.

Fraser Tolmie, Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan

Conservative
“I do not know of any study on this. That is a big warning sign. I trust our veterans, and I worry about what happens if we do not check this new agency properly and something goes wrong later.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, that is a good question. I am not aware of any study, but that is a big concern and a big red flag. I ultimately trust veterans who have put their life on the line for our country, including for the province of Quebec. I have served with many Quebeckers who are very proud. This is a big concern and a big red flag I would have. What happens in a few years if we find that something has gone wrong and the agency has not been properly vetted?

Kevin Lamoureux, Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Liberal
“Our government supports our military and our veterans. We put money into technology so veterans get disability benefits faster, and we reopened nine Veterans Affairs offices that the Conservatives closed.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, it is always a pleasure to rise and to address the issue of our Canadian Forces, and indeed of our veterans. As did a number of members of the House, I had the honour of serving in the Canadian Forces. I served for just over three years. One of the things I reflect on in a very positive way is when this time of the year came around and our regiment, members of the Canadian Forces posted in Lancaster Park, participated in parades. Among the people I had the honour of marching alongside were the World War II veterans in particular. We understood the value of and gained an appreciation for the sacrifices they had made. After the parade, we would go to other destinations, and they would talk about some of the things that had taken place during World War II. I have the deepest respect for the people who served and who gave the ultimate sacrifice of their life, and for those who have served in the Canadian Forces in whatever capacity, as well as for their supporters, whether it is DND or the families and so forth. I know I am not alone. Whether it is the Prime Minister, any member of the Liberal caucus or, I would suggest, all members of the House of Commons, we recognize the contributions of our veterans in the past, in the present and going into the future. We have seen that, to a certain degree, government actions over the last 18 months are setting a positive trend towards our Canadian Forces. We would have to look back generations to find the last time when there were as many Canadians wanting to join the Canadian Forces. When it comes to our veterans, we have put policies in place. A specific example is that in 2025, we put a significant amount of money in the budget so we could advance IT services so veterans would be able to receive their disability benefits more quickly. We do not need a lesson from the Conservatives on veterans and services. I would remind my Conservative friends across the way that there was a day when I was in opposition, and those were the days when Conservative policy was made that led to the shutting down of nine Veterans Affairs offices in the country. Fortunately, with the change in government, those offices were reopened. That was something that meant a great deal to me personally and to a vast majority of members of the House of Commons in 2015. We can think about the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires. I understand that the history, in good part, of that organization is as a non-profit. We need to recognize that when it was brought in during the late 1920s or the 1930s, around the time of World War I, it was because of those veterans. If we go to the 1920s, before it was really identified as a national organization, it started off in Montreal. By the time we got into the mid- or late-1930s, that is when it became well established as a national organization, and it was because of our veterans. Let us look at World War II and the number of veterans who were engaged, involved and employed. Governments back then saw the merit of the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires. However, let us do the comparison. I will say that I am a very strong fan of the Commissionaires. I have met with Commissionaires in the past, both at the Manitoba legislature and in my MP constituency office, and I can say that the work they do is incredible. Today, we will find that about 20% of them are veterans, but do not quote me on that. Contrast that with the day the Commissionaires came into being. When it came into being—

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