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Pierre Paul-Hus, Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles

Conservative
“I want the government to cancel a $12-million security contract given to an American-owned company and give it to a Canadian supplier instead. The Prime Minister promised to buy Canadian first, but his government passed over the Commissionaires, a Canadian group that hires veterans, to save just $80,000.”
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    “That is less than 1% of the contract's value.”

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moved: That, given that, (i) in response to the trade war launched against Canada by the Trump administration, the Prime Minister promised that “whenever the federal government spends, we will select Canadian suppliers by default,” and pledged to “ensure the federal government buys from Canadian suppliers”, (ii) when the Buy Canadian Policy took effect on December 16, 2025, the Prime Minister said Canada would become its own “best customer,” and the Minister of Government Transformation, Public Works and Procurement declared that the government was “putting Canadian workers and industries first”, (iii) in April 2026, the Prime Minister promised to build Canada strong with “Canadian steel, Canadian aluminum, Canadian lumber, Canadian workers”, (iv) in June 2026, the Canada Revenue Agency awarded a security services contract worth nearly $12 million to Universal Protection Service of Canada Corporation, a subsidiary of the American multinational Allied Universal, (v) Allied Universal’s subsidiary G4S reportedly holds contracts worth US $83 million with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the agency carrying out the Trump administration’s mass deportation agenda, and Allied Universal has reportedly received contracts worth more than US $290 million in 2026 alone from the Trump administration’s Department of Homeland Security, ICE’s parent department, (vi) the contract was awarded over a Canadian bidder that is a not-for-profit and the largest employer of veterans, whose offer differed by roughly $80,000, less than one per cent of the contract’s value which represents less than half of the $175,248.48 that, according to the government’s own response to an Order Paper question, was spent on in-flight catering for the Prime Minister and his delegation during a 10-day international trip to China, Qatar and Davos, Switzerland in January 2026, the House call on the government to respect veterans, follow its own Buy Canadian Policy, cancel the Canada Revenue Agency’s security contract with Universal Protection Service of Canada Corporation and award it to a Canadian supplier. He said: Madam Speaker, I want to begin by saying that I will be sharing my time with the Leader of the Opposition, the member for Battle River—Crowfoot. Since the beginning of the trade war with the United States, the Prime Minister has made repeated statements encouraging Canadians to buy Canadian and support Canadian businesses. That is wonderful. We obviously have no objection to that. He even promised that the federal government would give preference to Canadian suppliers for its own contracts. However, in June, the Canada Revenue Agency, a federal entity, awarded a security services contract worth nearly $12 million to a subsidiary of an American multinational, at the expense of the Commissionaires, a not-for-profit Canadian organization, formerly known as the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires, which is the largest employer of veterans in the country. I think it is a good time to talk about this because, as we know, it is Veterans’ Week. Members know that this is an important annual occasion, but it also ties directly into the matter before us today. We are talking about a $12-million contract, but the difference between the two bids was only about $80,000, or less than 1% of the contract’s value. That is a striking example of the contradiction between the Liberal government’s promises and its decisions. I will take a moment to explain what the Commissionaires are, for the benefit of Canadians who are following our proceedings and who might not know what I am talking about. This organization was founded over 100 years ago to provide employment opportunities for military members as they transition out of service. Even today, it helps veterans put their experience and skills to work for the benefit of Canadian society. I myself served in the Canadian Armed Forces for over 20 years and I am aware of the reality of the transition to civilian life. After a career in the military, military members often have to start over again, find a new job and get the skills they acquired within the Canadian Forces recognized. I can say that it is a challenge for military members because, often, civilians do not understand what these people did in their occupations, in their work with the Canadian Forces. Commissionaires play an important role in this transition. That is why I think it is particularly regrettable that an organization like that loses a federal contract under the present circumstances. I want to come back to the Prime Minister’s commitments. We have an expression in Quebec: se péter les bretelles. I do not know if my English-speaking colleagues use that phrase. Se péter les bretelles is when the Government of Canada says it is going to buy Canadian. The Prime Minister has even said that Canada will be its own best customer, while the Minister of Public Works and Procurement goes so far as to state that the government will give priority to Canadian industries and workers. As recently as last April, the Prime Minister promised to build Canada strong using Canadian steel, Canadian aluminum, Canadian lumber and Canadian workers. Then, just a few weeks later, the Canada Revenue Agency awarded a contract to Universal Protection Service, a subsidiary of the multinational company Allied Universal. Why do we even have a buy Canadian policy if the government is not going to support a Canadian organization that employs veterans? It always comes down to the same thing. It is not enough to simply make grand announcements. The public hates that aspect of politics. The government says it is going to be strong here at home, that Canada is going to be strong, that it is going to buy Canadian and hire Canadians, but then it turns around and gives contracts to Americans. Did someone not get the message? The government really needs to keep its promises when these kinds of announcements are made. There is another fundamental issue in the debate that concerns us today, namely the decision to choose a company to replace the Commissionaires. It is important to note that Allied Universal also owns a company called G4S, which, according to reports, has $83 million U.S. in contracts with the U.S. agency ICE, the notorious immigration agency responsible for carrying out the mass deportations ordered by the Trump administration. Allied Universal was awarded a contract worth more than $290 million U.S. from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2026 alone. Where is the consistency? We are not saying that an American-owned company cannot do business in Canada. What we are asking, however, is that the government abide by its own policy of employing Canadians first and foremost. That is where buy Canadian begins. We also need to put these numbers into perspective. Some may argue that it was cheaper, that it cost $80,000 less. Yes, but that amounts to less than 1% of the contract’s value. To make a comparison, according to information we obtained in response to an Order Paper question, catering services aboard the Prime Minister’s plane and for his delegation during a 10-day trip to China, Qatar and Davos last January cost $175,248.48. That was just for catering, for meals on the plane. That amount is twice the difference between the bid that favoured the American company and the bid submitted by the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires. Granted, it is not the same kind of difference, but it is a matter of principle. The principle stands. Approximately $175,000 was spent on a 10-day trip. That is double the $80,000 difference. This was a contract that supported veterans, people who had left the Canadian Forces and who, thanks to the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires, were given a valuable opportunity to work in civilian life and put to use the knowledge and skills they had acquired in the field of security. The decision is incomprehensible. Remembrance Day will be observed in a few days’ time. People across the country will honour the men and women who have worn our nation’s uniform. Our respect for them is not limited to November 11. It calls for concrete actions. The Canadian Corps of Commissionaires offers veterans exactly that: an opportunity to keep contributing to society. The federal government should keep that mission in mind when it makes its decisions. The motion therefore calls on the government to uphold its commitments to veterans, follow the buy Canadian policy, cancel the contract awarded to Universal Protection Service of Canada Corporation and award it to a Canadian supplier. The Prime Minister promised that Canada would become its own best customer. These are not my words; they are his. Today, we are asking the government to move from words to action. The contract must be cancelled and the decision reversed.

Kevin Lamoureux, Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Liberal
“The Conservatives are criticizing our flight expenses, but Stephen Harper spent over $1 million just to fly a car to India. The member should think about that comparison. I also support the Commissionaires.”
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Madam Speaker, I listened to the member’s statements and one of the things I find interesting is how they are trying to draw a comparison between flight expenses. The first thing I get a flashback to is when I was sitting in opposition and Stephen Harper actually paid over $1 million to fly a car to India so that he would be able to drive that particular car. I am wondering if the member could reflect on a comparison where there were dozens of people that had flown over. I am very much aware of and supportive of the Commissionaires, and I will continue to be so.

Pierre Paul-Hus, Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles

Conservative
“The Liberals are bringing up past spending to distract from the real issue. The Prime Minister said we should buy Canadian first. Instead, the government is giving a contract to an American company when a Canadian non-profit could do the work. The government needs to answer for this.”
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Madam Speaker, the Liberals are once again trying to deflect by bringing up a matter concerning the security expenditures incurred by the then prime minister, Mr. Harper. The fundamental issue is what the Prime Minister himself said: buy Canadian first and foremost. In this case, however, a contract is being awarded to an American company, even though a not-for-profit corporation, the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires, can do the work. That is what they should be answering for, instead of trying to distract from the issue.

Christine Normandin, Saint-Jean

Bloc Québécois
“An eighty thousand dollar contract should not have gone to a foreign company. But buying Canadian is not always the cheapest option. I want my colleague to explain how the rules should balance that, and what the targets for buying Canadian actually mean.”
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Madam Speaker, it seems obvious to me that, for $80,000, the contract should not have been awarded to a foreign company. That said, I would like to ask my colleague some questions about the flexibility needed to justify keeping a contract in Canada, even when doing so is not the most competitive option from a strictly economic standpoint. Has my colleague given any thought to that aspect of the issue? As members know, there is a buy Canadian policy, but even that is rather vague in terms of what it actually entails. For example, when we talk about 70% of contracts, are we talking about the number of contracts or the value of those contracts? I would appreciate some clarification from my colleague on that point.

Pierre Paul-Hus, Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles

Conservative

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“The Prime Minister says we should buy Canadian, but the government just gave a $12-million contract to an American company instead of a Canadian one. We need clear rules and strict oversight so government buying actually supports Canadian workers.”
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Madam Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague from the Bloc for her excellent question. This sort of ties in with industrial benefits. In defence procurement, for example, there is often a requirement that a certain percentage of the work be carried out by Canadian industry. We can all agree that $80,000 is roughly the average salary of a federal employee. It is not a large amount of money, but the decision itself is important. What does not sit right, what simply does not make sense, is awarding a $12-million contract to an American company instead of to the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires. Generally speaking, when the Prime Minister says we must prioritize buying Canadian, the government’s procurement policies should reflect that commitment. Of course, abuses must be prevented. That is why clear rules and rigorous oversight are essential. So far, we have seen nothing but lip service.

Luc Berthold, Mégantic—L'Érable—Lotbinière

Conservative
“The Prime Minister promised to buy Canadian, but he broke that promise. Just before Remembrance Day, his government gave a contract to an American company instead of a Canadian non-profit run by veterans. I want to know why ministers cannot keep their own promises.”
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Madam Speaker, I would like my colleague to answer a very simple question. What are the ministers good for? We have a Prime Minister who made a big promise. He said we were going to buy Canadian. That was the big promise. He said we were going to be our own best customer, yet now we see that, on such an important issue, at a time as important as the month of November, just a few days before Remembrance Day, the Prime Minister is not keeping his word and is awarding a contract to an American company rather than to a non-profit organization made up of veterans. What kind of message are the ministers sending to Canadians when they cannot even keep and uphold the Prime Minister’s promises?

Pierre Paul-Hus, Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles

Conservative
“The Prime Minister promised to buy Canadian goods and stand up to the Americans. Instead, the government is doing the opposite. Ministers have done nothing to change the purchasing rules to match that promise.”
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Madam Speaker, that is an excellent question. Indeed, what message does that send? It sends a highly negative message when a Prime Minister solemnly declares that we are going to fight the Americans, fight Donald Trump and buy Canadian, only for the government to do the exact opposite of what he said. My colleague is right to wonder what the ministers are doing. What has the Minister of Government Transformation, Public Works and Procurement done to change the rules and bring them in line with the Prime Minister’s direction? In fact, absolutely nothing has been done. Again, all we get are words, words and more words. In fact, the reality is completely at odds with what the Prime Minister has called for.

Pierre Poilievre, Leader of the Opposition

Conservative
“I want the House to vote for this motion. The government took a 12-million-dollar security contract away from Canadian veterans and gave it to an American company to save less than one percent. The Prime Minister promises to buy Canadian and stand up to the United States, but he does the opposite and has failed to end American tariffs on our goods. We must use our energy, minerals, and military to get a fair trade deal and put Canada first.”
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Madam Speaker, we are here today to put Canada first, as a remarkable group of Canadians did in 1925, almost 100 years ago exactly, when they came together to form the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires, an organization that hired First World War veterans to do what they have always done best: protect their fellow Canadians. A century later, the Commissionaires is still the largest non-governmental employer of veterans anywhere in Canada. It protects our public servants, and for years, it protected the offices of the Canada Revenue Agency. By every account, the agency was happy and satisfied with its exceptional work. Then on June 16 of this year, under the Prime Minister, the CRA handed the nearly $12-million contract to Universal Protection Service, a subsidiary of Allied Universal, an American security giant with ties to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement deportation program, otherwise known as ICE. How much did Canadians save by elbowing out of this contract our veterans and giving it to the American parent company? It was a measly $80,000, less than 1% of the contract value. Obviously, when we take into account the taxes the commissionaires would have paid on their salaries back to the Canadian government, that amount is probably eliminated altogether. This is not a one-year deal. It runs for two years and can be extended five more after that, for a total of seven. That is seven years that our veterans could be shut out of this important work. The head of the Commissionaires for the Great Lakes said that he had never seen a contract this size change hands on such a slender difference when the client was happy with the work of the Commissionaires. Here is the part that should make every member of the House stop and think. The government’s own tender said, “This solicitation is open only to Canadian suppliers.” If it was only open to Canadian suppliers, how is it that an American-owned subsidiary got the deal? The answer is that the government’s so-called buy Canadian rules allow any foreign company to simply open a Canadian address in order to compete for Canadian-based work. As long as someone has a post office box, they can be from anywhere in the world and get a job paid for by Canadian tax dollars. The commissionaires themselves were shocked. One said, “Any foreign company can set up an office in Canada” and, in the words of this commissionaire, “poof”, the entire contracting rule goes up in smoke. To use another metaphor, it is maple-washing when an American giant with a Canadian mailing address counts the same as a 100-year-old charity, the largest employer in the country of Canadian veterans. Do members remember when the Prime Minister said only a few months ago that Canada is “at war” with the United States? Now he is hiring them to protect our tax office. That is not exactly the thing to do. This is not an accident. The contradictions are a pattern. On the U.S.-Canada file, the Prime Minister says one thing and does exactly the opposite. It is all an illusion for his political benefit. He is all talk and no results. He is out of touch while Canadians, in particular Canadian veterans, are out of money. Let us go through the list of these contradictions. He promised a buy Canadian policy, and then he increased the amount spent on American firms by 55%, to a total of $7.8 billion, of which the betrayal of the Commissionaires is just one example. In January, he told the world that we are in a “rupture, not a transition” with the U.S. Then he went on to say that our ties with the Americans had become our biggest weakness. Days later, he said that Canada and the U.S. would be “stronger together”. He warned against a world of fortresses in his Davos speech. Then he gave another speech where he said that he was in favour of something called “Fortress North America”. He said that “integration” had become “subordination”. Then he wanted more integration to, in his words, “make America great again”. In the election, he promised that if the Americans put tariffs on us, he would respond with dollar-for-dollar tariffs. He said that Canadians were in no mood for any concessions. Two months later, he admitted that his government had already moved off of dollar-for-dollar tariffs, and then quietly, he dropped reciprocal tariffs altogether. His energy minister said that energy was the best leverage we had in our negotiations for a deal. A week later, the Prime Minister said that resources were not leverage at all. At the summer 2025 G7 conference, he promised a deal within the coming 30 days. He missed that deadline, and almost a year and a half later, there is still no deal and there are still no wins. On the Gordie Howe bridge, the Prime Minister said he had secured a deal to ensure that no tariff revenues would go to the United States until all of Canada’s debt to build the bridge was repaid. After all, we had built the entire thing with our money. Then it came out that in fact the Americans were getting half of the net tolls from day one, not waiting until we paid off the enormous debts we incurred to build the bridge. Last week, the Prime Minister said that he was willing to wait until there was a new president before we get a deal. To be clear, that means two and a half more years of American tariffs killing Canadian jobs. How out of touch was that? However, worry not, because less than 72 hours later, he put out a tweet saying that he had called the president and restarted formal talks for a mutually beneficial trade deal in the coming weeks. We hope he is serious this time. We hope this is for real, but forgive us if we hesitate to pop the champagne until we see the actual results. It is an incredible reversal to say in the span of three days that he is willing to wait two and a half years without a deal and then say that he is kicking off negotiations to complete talks in the next several weeks. The Prime Minister has a phrase for this. He calls it “the performance of sovereignty while accepting subordination.” He was right about this phrase. He just did not realize that he was describing himself, because after all the speeches, all the slogans and all the deadlines, where are the results he promised? His single biggest promise in the last election was that he would deliver a great deal with the U.S, he would handle Donald Trump and he would negotiate a win. There is still no deal, still no tariff relief and still no results. Our economy has flatlined, 110,000 jobs have been lost in two months, there is a 9% increase in food bank demand, homebuilding is down rather than doubled, as the Prime Minister promised, and Canadian veterans have been pushed aside so an American company could guard our tax office. The Prime Minister will do anything to keep us distracted from his costly failures here at home. That is not leadership. It is political theatre. We do not need more grandstanding over the next month and a half from the Prime Minister. We need him to actually get the deal he promised. We as Conservatives have laid out a clear plan on how to get that deal. It starts with using the leverage we have. We have the things that Americans need. We have 10 of the 12 NATO-defined defence minerals right beneath our feet. Let us unlock their production and put them in strategic storage facilities, along with a new above-ground oil reserve that we can provide tariff-free to allies on a right-of-first-refusal basis to incentivize them to remove their tariffs. Let us align with our key trading partner to combat China’s abuse of our country. Let us use our massive military buildup and our willingness to take on more responsibility protecting our share of the continent as further leverage to get the tariff-free deal that we want. None of this should stop us from solving the problems we have here at home. Our youth need jobs and homes. Our families need affordable food. Our economy needs homegrown growth. Criminals need to go to jail. Drugs need to come off our street. Government spending must fall, and we must ultimately deliver for the people. All of these things are in our hands. The Prime Minister likes to say that we want to be masters of our own destiny. We could not agree more, but we cannot be a master of our own destiny if we are constantly making excuses about what we cannot achieve. There is no tweet from the U.S. president that can stop us from fixing our problems here at home. Let us save Canadians money, save their jobs, keep them safe, fix broken immigration and, most of all, put Canada first. Putting Canada first means putting our veterans first and voting for this motion.

Kevin Lamoureux, Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Liberal
“We are working to get the best trade deal we can with the United States. Getting a good deal takes time. While we negotiate, Canada must also build trade ties with other countries.”
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Madam Speaker, putting Canada first has meant, coming out of the last federal election, as the Prime Minister made very clear, looking for opportunities that go beyond the Canada-U.S. border while we continue to negotiate the best deal. I realize that the best deal might not necessarily be on the same timetable as the leader of the Conservative Party, who thinks he can just tap his heels together and, voila, a deal is achieved. That is dreamland. At the end of the day, would the leader not agree that as we wait for the best deal we can get for Canadians, it is critical that Canada and the Prime Minister continue to look at other nations as a way to increase our trading opportunities?

Pierre Poilievre, Leader of the Opposition

Conservative
“The Prime Minister got no results at his European summit. No European countries approved our trade deal, none agreed to buy our beef and pork, and none promised to drop their planned carbon tax on Canadian goods. Conservatives support trade and NATO, but we will not pay taxes to Europe, follow their laws, or take their migration rules. We will put Canada first.”
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Madam Speaker, we could not agree more, and that is why we are so disappointed that the Prime Minister got absolutely zero results at his grand summit last week. Zero European countries signed on to ratify the free trade agreement we already have with the EU. Zero of them opened trade to Canadian beef and pork, and there was not one commitment to cancel the planned carbon tariff that that continent is threatening to impose on the already besieged Canadian industry. Instead, we have a Prime Minister negotiating that in secret, potentially putting our sovereignty at risk. Our message on that is clear. Yes, we want to trade with Europe, and yes, we want to honour our NATO commitment, but we will never support Canadians paying taxes to the EU, following EU laws or accepting EU-style migration. We have our problems to fix here at home, and Conservatives will put Canada first to fix them.

Christine Normandin, Saint-Jean

Bloc Québécois
“We should keep Canadian tax dollars from going to the United States. The Conservatives say they want this, but they also want public money to fund oil and gas pipelines. Most oil and gas companies are foreign-owned, and 60% are American-owned. I want them to admit this is a contradiction.”
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Madam Speaker, today’s debate is primarily about Canada’s sovereignty and the need to ensure that Canadian taxpayers’ money is not sent to the United States. s there not a contradiction in the Conservatives’ position, given that one of their priorities is to support the oil and gas industry, including by building pipelines using public funds, in other words taxpayers’ money, when not only are 80% of the companies in the oil and gas sector foreign-owned, but 60% of them are American-owned?

Pierre Poilievre, Leader of the Opposition

Conservative
“We do not want subsidies or bailouts for oil companies or any other industry. The oil industry already makes a lot of money on its own. The government should just cut taxes, get rid of bad rules, and let businesses build and invest.”
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Madam Speaker, I do not know how many times I have to say this. We are not proposing subsidies for oil companies. That has never been our position, because the oil industry is extremely profitable on its own. The government just needs to cut red tape and federal taxes so that private investors, private sector workers and private companies can build projects and develop our resources. I am going to say exactly the same thing in English that I said in French, because I want to make it clear that we do not say one thing in one language and the opposite in the other. We do not think there need to be bailouts, handouts and carve-outs for any industry, including the oil and gas industry. Instead, we believe in getting the government out of the way and off the backs of all industries. Oil and gas is wildly profitable on its own. The government just needs to get out of the way, repeal the antidevelopment laws and taxes, and let builders build, investors invest and workers work.

Alex Ruff, Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound

Conservative
“The government gave a $12-million security contract to an American company instead of the Commissionaires, who employ Canadian veterans. The Liberals took away the veterans' first-choice right for these contracts and will not say why. I want to know if the Leader of the Opposition is as upset about this as I am.”
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Madam Speaker, I would like to remind all Canadians that the reason the CRA was able to issue this $12-million contract to a U.S. company is that the Liberal government removed the right of first refusal to the Commissionaires for security contracts, which had been in place since 1945. When I asked the Liberals, in this chamber, why they did it, they refused to answer the question. Considering the Commissionaires is the largest not-for-profit employer of Canadian veterans in Canada, is the Leader of the Opposition as frustrated as I am with this affront to our Canadian veterans?

Pierre Poilievre, Leader of the Opposition

Conservative
“The government should give security contracts to the Commissionaires first. That group is the largest employer of Canadian veterans. It is wrong that the government gave this work to a big foreign company instead.”
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Madam Speaker, first of all, speaking of Canadian veterans, we should take a moment to thank the hon. member for his distinguished service to the Canadian Armed Forces. Yes, I do share his frustration. There is a reason many, if not all, of the government departments have had a right of first refusal arrangement with the Commissionaires, and that was so they could focus on protecting our buildings and public servants rather than on fighting back lobbyists for large multinational corporations that are trying to steal the work. We wanted the commissionaires to have job security, and that was the reason for the right of first refusal. The fact that the government has not honoured that in this particular case is really a disgrace. If there is one case where putting Canada first was most necessary, it is for the single largest employer of Canadian veterans.

Ryan Turnbull, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance and National Revenue and to the Secretary of State (Canada Revenue Agency and Financial Institutions)

Liberal
“The tax agency ran a fair, open contest for its security contract. It picked the company that gave the best overall value, not just the lowest price. The winning company is based in Canada and hired many veterans and former commissionaires for these jobs.”
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Madam Speaker, it is great to be here today on the week of the federal budget, which is coming this Thursday. It is an exciting week for all of us. I will be sharing my time with the member for Pontiac—Kitigan Zibi. I want to start by acknowledging the buy Canadian policy of our government. It is a very important feature of the government’s strategy right now to build Canada strong. I am pleased to address the questions raised by the official opposition regarding the Canada Revenue Agency’s recent security services contract. Each of us understands the importance of supporting Canadian workers, veterans and industries. I would like to provide clarity on points raised about this procurement decision. First and foremost, let me outline the key facts regarding this procurement. On June 16, 2026, the CRA awarded the security services contract to Universal Protection Service of Canada Corporation, operating as Allied Universal security services. The contract came into effect on August 25, 2026. The contract was awarded to Universal Protection Service of Canada Corporation because its proposal best met the established requirements and offered the highest overall value to Canadians. By using the best value approach, the CRA is confident that contracts are awarded to suppliers that meet the highest standards while minimizing risks to the agency. Some publicly reported information about the evaluation process and its results does not fully and accurately reflect the procurement approach that was used for this contract. The process balanced multiple factors to ensure the best value for the CRA. The outcome was not driven by political considerations, which we often get lots of in the House, but rather by a fair, transparent and open process. The CRA awarded this contract through a competitive, fair and transparent procurement process that was conducted in line with applicable procurement policies and regulations. The Canada Revenue Agency Act, adopted by Parliament, provides the CRA with full authority to contract and develop its own contracting policy framework, while considering, of course, Treasury Board policies and regulations. The agency has always awarded contracts for security services competitively, as it did this time around. All the suppliers that met the requirements of the request for proposal were eligible to compete for this contract. We all acknowledge that competition is good. This decision was made independently and in accordance with all applicable policies. Both Universal Protection Service of Canada Corporation and the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires qualified as Canadian suppliers under the terms of the procurement. Supplier eligibility is determined by established operations and business presence in Canada, consistent with procurement policies and trade obligations. I feel it is important to note that Universal Protection Service of Canada Corporation employs approximately 10,000 people across Canada at 19 locations nationwide, and its Canadian headquarters is in Mississauga, Ontario. This contract was for 60 security guards, and 33 of them, which is over half, were former commissionaires, with 12 of them having served in uniform previously. The CRA conducted this procurement process by incorporating a wide range of criteria, as is the case with many procurements. In this case, these included quality, capability, cost and risk. Proposals were evaluated based on both technical and financial merit to determine which company offered the best overall value. The final decision was based on the CRA’s procurement process, which again is guided by the best value approach. This means that the contract was not awarded solely based on the lowest price, but to the bidder with the highest combined score in all of the areas. I would like to emphasize that the CRA values the long-standing relationship it has with the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires. Commissionaires has made significant contributions to providing security services to the agency and has demonstrated a strong commitment to support veterans from the Canadian Forces and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Like all Canadians, we greatly appreciate its efforts. The outcome of this procurement was strictly the result of a competitive evaluation process conducted in accordance with established procurement guidelines and principles. While veterans remain an important part of the Canadian workforce, it is worth noting that employment opportunities for veterans have expanded significantly in recent years through initiatives such as the national veterans employment strategy. This strategy has created a more diverse set of employment opportunities for veterans by fostering collaboration between government employers and other partners and, as such, veterans have increasingly been connected with more varied job opportunities as a result. As previously noted, the Canada Revenue Agency Act provides the CRA with the authority to enter into contracts and manage all matters relating to general administrative policy, including procurement. The CRA has full authority to contract and develop its own contracting policy framework while considering Treasury Board policies and regulations. The CRA remains committed, of course, to upholding its procurement obligations in accordance with its policies and codes of conduct, as well as the Government of Canada’s obligations. The CRA’s decision reflects a commitment to fairness, value and transparency in all procurement activities. The government, of course, remains committed to supporting Canadian workers, including veterans, and to upholding the principles of our trade agreements and procurement policies. It is imperative that Canadians have confidence in the CRA’s processes and understand that decisions are made in their best interests, with a focus on delivering high-quality services while minimizing risks.

Alex Ruff, Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound

Conservative
“The government gave a security contract to a company instead of the Commissionaires. That only happened because the government ended an old rule that gave the Commissionaires first choice. The government will not explain why. The other company employs about 12 veterans, while the Commissionaires employs over 4,000. I want the member to explain why the rule changed and which company helps veterans more.”
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Madam Speaker, my question to the member, and he seems to be fairly informed, has two parts. First, the only reason CRA was able to issue this contract to a company other than Commissionaires was that Veterans Affairs removed the right of first refusal to Commissionaires, a policy that has been in place since 1945. The government refused to answer a question about that when I asked during question period. Maybe the member now knows why. Second, I just want to clarify that, during his statement, the member said, I believe, that Allied Universal has maybe 12 Canadian veterans currently employed by the company. I point out that Commissionaires has over 4,000 Canadian veterans. Which one does he think would actually provide more employment opportunity, especially for older Canadian veterans?

Ryan Turnbull, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance and National Revenue and to the Secretary of State (Canada Revenue Agency and Financial Institutions)

Liberal
“I want to correct the facts. Of the 60 guards hired, 33 were former commissionaires and 12 had served in uniform. Competition helps us get the best value for contracts. Under our rules, a business counts as Canadian if it employs people here, and this company has 10,000 workers in Canada. The tax agency looked at quality, risk, and jobs, and it stands by this decision.”
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Madam Speaker, just to correct the record, I said that, of the 60 security guards hired through that particular contract, 33 of them were former commissionaires while 12 of those served in uniform previously. Not all commissionaires served in uniform, apparently, from what I have been told. That is just to clarify for the member opposite what I said, to be factually correct. As to the member’s question about the procurement process, I think we would probably all agree that competition within procurement is a positive thing. A best value approach is probably the best way to evaluate procurement contracts. I will note that, within the buy Canadian policy, we have defined Canadian companies as not being determined by ownership criteria, but rather by the number of employment opportunities in Canada. This particular organization has 10,000 employees in Canada, so it did qualify under those criteria. Members need to understand that the best value of this contract was weighed between a number of different factors, and this is the decision the CRA made. It stands by that decision. Even though I know it is hard for us and members opposite to accept that decision, it was the one determined to be in the best value, which is a balance of all the different criteria, as I mentioned, of quality, risk, employment and other factors within that procurement process.

Elizabeth May, Saanich—Gulf Islands

Green
“The government says it wants the best prices, but it leaves out buying from Canadian companies. The government spent $2 billion on military gear from an American company with an Ontario plant and called it Canadian. Canadians want the government to buy from Canadian businesses first. I want the parliamentary secretary to explain how much buying Canadian matters when choosing who gets a contract.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, on this, I find myself unequivocally agreeing with the member of Parliament for Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound and finding the argumentation from my friend, the parliamentary secretary, lacking because the fundamental piece around the best efficiencies, the best competitive bid, omits the commitment to buy Canadian. The maple-washing point made by the leader of the official opposition would also apply to the $2 billion to General Dynamics for buying military equipment while claiming it is a Canadian company, although General Dynamics is a 100% U.S. company with a branch plant in London, Ontario. Canadians want to see investment in Canadian companies, first and foremost. So-called LNG Canada has not a single Canadian corporation involved. There are also PetroChina and Shell. I could go on. Canadians really are calling for the government to put Canada first in procurement. I wonder if the parliamentary secretary could give us a sense of where that ranks when there are competing bids.

Ryan Turnbull, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance and National Revenue and to the Secretary of State (Canada Revenue Agency and Financial Institutions)

Liberal
“Our buy-Canadian policy is working. Under our rules, a business counts as Canadian if it has large operations and creates jobs here, even if it is not owned by Canadians. The contract being criticized supports 10,000 jobs in Canada. Most of our new contracts go to Canadian suppliers.”
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Madam Speaker, I appreciate the member opposite’s question and comments. Just to be clear, the buy Canadian policy defines a company that qualifies as one not determined by who owns the company but rather by its significant operations within Canada, including employment opportunities. As I said, the contract in question here includes 10,000 employees in Canada. That is a significant base that supports the Canadian economy. In terms of overall numbers, PSPC awarded a total of 1,644 new contracts for $23 billion. Some 1,342 of those contracts, worth roughly $17.7 billion, were awarded to Canadian suppliers. Again, the buy Canadian policy is real, and it is working. I know the members opposite keep pointing out instances, with some contracts, where perhaps there may be no Canadian supplier or a supplier does not have the same operations in Canada, and I think that it is weighing heavily upon the procurement decisions that are made by PSPC and the Treasury Board directives right across the government.

Sophie Chatel, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence

Liberal
“The opposition motion focuses only on security jobs for veterans. Veterans have many more skills than that, like engineering, trades, and cybersecurity. Canada needs skilled workers, and veterans leave the military young and ready to work. I want businesses to hire veterans and sign up for our new program that recognizes employers who support them.”
Official Hansard

Madam Speaker, with Remembrance Day now only nine days away, today we have a very important opportunity to remind Canadians that remembrance, commemoration and respect for the veterans in our communities have a place not only on November 11, but throughout the year, and for all Canadians. We owe that recognition to the women and men who have served and those who continue to serve our great country and protect our sovereignty. It is in this spirit that I rise today to address the opposition motion. Respect for veterans and support for Canadian business deserve a serious debate. By treating a single contract as a measure of our government’s respect for veterans, however, the opposition overlooks the breadth and the scale of the contribution they can make. At committee, representatives of several veterans groups and organizations told us that we need to change the narrative about our veterans. We need to talk about their skills, training, experience and all they bring all of that to the civil workforce. Many leave the military at the age of 34. This is the average age of a veteran today, with years of working life ahead of them. What do they bring with them? They bring technical expertise in fields like airspace, cybersecurity and other dual-use technologies, including drones. They are a tremendous asset in our country, particularly in those sectors where there is an acute labour shortage, yet the opposition motion focuses on their role in security services. Of course, our veterans are qualified for that work, but their opportunities extend way beyond that. They can help advance our industrial strategy, strengthen our defence industry and continue serving Canada in many different ways. That requires a lot more than a procurement decision. It requires the recognition of the skills and qualifications they acquired during their service. They need to put their expertise to work in industries that need them. That is precisely what our Minister of Veterans Affairs is working to deliver. This motion gives me the opportunity to tell Canada’s veterans about an important next step our government is taking to address today’s realities and tomorrow’s opportunities. All across Canada, companies in many sectors are seeking qualified personnel to fill key strategic positions, expand their operations, and seize new business opportunities. Over the next 10 years, 593,000 new jobs in Red Seal trades will need to be filled. Trade schools will not be able to provide enough workers. In the aerospace sector alone, it is estimated that between 42,000 and 65,000 positions will need to be filled over the next 10 years. According to one study, trade schools will only be able to meet about 25% of that demand. At the same time, nearly 8,000 members of the Canadian Armed Forces leave military service each year, at an average age of 34. Today, I would like to talk about how our government can bridge the gap between these two realities. In my view, veterans represent one of the largest untapped talent pools in the country. Their hands-on experience in logistics, operations, engineering, and information technology is a valuable asset for Canada as it seeks to diversify and expand its economic relationships around the world. When they want to embark on a new career, we must give them every opportunity to put that expertise to good use. We are doing this for veterans because they have served Canada and protected our sovereignty, but we are also doing it so that they can continue to contribute to Canada. We need them. One point deserves to be highlighted. As I mentioned, today’s veterans are, on average, quite young. They are seasoned professionals whose skills are in high demand, particularly in the dual-use technology sector, referring to technology that can be used both for military purposes and in our strategic industries. In addition to their technical expertise, Canada’s veterans bring some even more highly valued assets to the table: strong leadership skills, problem-solving abilities, project management experience and a proven ability to perform under challenging and demanding conditions. Their expertise in logistics, cybersecurity, advanced technologies, human resources, finance and Red Seal trades deserves full recognition. The challenge is that these fields are not the ones that immediately come to mind when we talk about military service. My colleagues are putting a lot of focus on security services. However, by limiting veterans to jobs in this field, we are missing an extraordinary opportunity to recognize their talent and expertise in leading trades. When a person did not serve in the military themselves and is unfamiliar with the military environment, it can be difficult for them to grasp the diverse range of skills that military personnel have. We are talking about acquired skills that are essential to modern military operations. More importantly, they are completely transferable to a civilian work environment. In many cases, they are exactly the skills that employers are looking for. Canada, with our Minister of Veterans Affairs, is now taking deliberate steps to strengthen our defence industrial capacity, to invest in major projects and national development initiatives across the country, and to recognize the role that veterans can play in meeting that objective. We are living at a time when the demand for skilled workers will only continue to go grow. Last week, in Victoria, British Columbia, the Minister of Veterans Affairs announced a key initiative to encourage our veterans to contribute to our strategic defence industry following their military career. I am talking about the veteran employer recognition initiative and the new “Veteran Ready” designation, which recognizes organizations that value veterans’ skills and that will commit to helping them transition to a successful civilian career in the field of their choice. This strategy sends a clear message to veterans, staff, clients and communities: This organization recognizes the value of military service, experience and leadership. I therefore call on businesses and the general public across the country to show leadership in their local communities, raise awareness of this designation in their ridings, encourage businesses to take part in the initiative, help employers recognize the value of military experience, and help veterans find employment opportunities that match their skills.

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